The Pigs start a Total Melt down!

[SASKFARMER3]

Ha ha good one, trying to start seeding today, let
the fun begin.

[liberty]

I find it hilarious to hear mainstream economists telling nations like Greece and Spain that all their problems will vanish if they just leave the Euro zone and devalue their new currencies. What these nitwits have not considered is what will happen if a whole bunch of nations in the Euro zone decide to do the same thing. What happens then is that your currency devaluation gets matched by your equally bankrupt neighbors, so that in the end everyone's currency still has the same relative value. So you're ultimately back to square one.

One way or another, all of these socialist workers' paradises like Greece will eventually have to pay back their debts. That is if they want anyone to ever lend them a dime again. If they prefer to do without foreign capital, or think they can just print phony capital via a central bank, then they can look to Zimbabwe to see their future.

[Cattleman]

It won't be a race to the bottom for everyone. At the other extreme, at times Germany has benefitted from the weak Euro. It is as much about them leaving the Euro. For Greece and others, problems won't go away, but they will have other tools to deal with their problems, and should be dealt the direct consequences of the position they have gotten themselves into.

Once Greece leaves, and goes back to the drachma, what will be the value of the Greek Bonds the French banks have on their books? Unwinding this mess will probably get messier don't ya think?

[Hopperbin]

Is it fair to put a U in pigs to make pigus, is the USA ever going to get their economy back? Or maybe rotating haves and have nots in the world just a natural cycle.

[tstep]

A lot of drama going on....the world is at an interesting juncture...80% of the world refuses to buy US bonds, so the funding mechanism for the US system is breaking down...in its place, the US is printing the money it needs to carry on....part and parcel of this "arrangement" that has gone on for many decades now, is the ability to control gold and silver prices via the futures markets. Just like the late 1960's, if the gold price didn't rise dramatically, there would be no gold left for the system to function as it was. If the price was kept low, the vacuum cleaner of gold would go to work. This describes the who and why of what you have been seeing of late...the world is now so full of US dollars that are losing their utility in international commerce, that those who own them are buying hard assets, to own something tangible. Huge physical offtake is now presumably underway, out of London and the Crimex in the US. I hope to have more on this tomorrow....fascinating times to be sure. Keep cash on hand, buy the dips if you have extra cash to do so, and don't worry. Once the Chinese have cleaned out the west's gold supply, things will turn around...and in a hurry.

[liberty]

Cattleman makes a good point: Greek bonds are on the books of financial institutions all over Europe, not to mention the bonds of Spain, Italy, Portugal, etc. What happens when even one of these countries declares its intention not to bother paying them back? That will be more than enough to trigger the collapse of many European banks.

[sumdumguy]

Fear not, there is AgriStability. P2 will save us
all- no? Then the gov will chuck in some CITI
and on we go paying $100 cash rent and $2000
bucks an acre, $800 for fert, recipe for riches.

SF3 you were dead right!

[furrowtickler]

Hey S/F, got much done yet with your 2 mill worth of outfit's? We're about 1/2 done with our old shat... Not as wet as you or as some of our nieghbours heheh with fancy outfits, to big and heavy pullin mud..... Good old 8810 with single shank, acre after acre no pluging or mudding. But you absolutely need a 1 mill outfit to bo a big farmer now ...lol
I know that is way too wet for most to start just could not resist.

[furrowtickler]

Heavy rain just to the west of here, movin north. May dodge a bullet.... again - for now.

[ab3]

Furrow seems like you might be a little bit
jealous. 8810 is a good seeder but no
comparison in seed placement to some of the
newer drills. Did you ever think some guys might
make more money than you and pay cash and
they don't have payments.

[furrowtickler]

Wow, even your convinced, hehehe. You don't make money with lawn ornaments. I will put my outfit against any thing out there and a grand to boot - takers? Ever think that there are much better ways to make money? Exact seed placement does not make money at mill per machine, sorry to burst your bubble. We have not had a payment in seeding or tractors in 15 years, paid cash at the time. Very stupid comment BTW. .
Not jealous one bit, to be not seeding, lol

[furrowtickler]

I challenge you to find anyone makin more money in my area net/ac. Some less, some even, but very few more, and not those with the mill $ outfits doing the same or less than us. Not sayin we're better or smarter or they are - just snappin back with reality. I see with eyes wide open eveything around me, lol. Not running old press drills BTW.
You seedin? What outfit? No matter how you shake it 2 shanks make a mess in less than ideal coditions compared to one, see it all around me. We could buy cash today if we were forced too, but why? Until a seeding outfit can out perform what I have in every condition and make me money, why? More ac does not = more money, most don't get that concept at all. Make what you have better, not try to make better what you wish you had.
Only one reason our canola froze last year - 95% emergence while others had 50% or less seeded the same day. Shitty old 8810, seed placement issue - hehehhe. I think some are embaressed by the fact what can be done with "not so perfect " seeding outfits for a fraction of the cost is the real issue.

[sumdumguy]

Melted down pigs, guess that means grease.

[sumdumguy]

Sick sense of humor.

[SASKFARMER3]

Furrow we got going yesterday on some
well drained land. Half section rolling
into a little creek. So 58 to go. The
seedmaster is working fine trying a new
addition to it. Cable from back to hitch
of air tank. Its designed by seedmaster
to lift front wheels. It works now you
dont spin out because your drills front
wheels fall in. One day down many more
to go. Bourgault was sitting blew a pipe
oil line. It will be going tomorrow.
Sprayed one field where it hailed last
week. Not good, not good at all. Lets
hope we miss today.