Organic Operations?

[Choice2U]

If so, I would think the dandelion problem would be worse on headlands and where one enters fields but I have never seen that....an old wives tale, me thinks.

[hobbyfrmr]

I stand corrected. Compacted soil is only one
symptom.
http://nwfarmsandfood.com/index.php/what-
weeds-can-tell-about-the-soil.
Groundspeed, I said some conventional guys
farm better than others. Good chance you spray
the right product. There was a time in my area the
no till fields were full of dandelions, now it is
convenient to blame the organic farmers. I find
that childish. It's unusual that, when the organic
farmers inmy area grow 125 bu/acre oats and 80
bushels/ acre barley, and pays cash for
everything they buy, nobody talks about that.
That's fine, I really don't care, I have respectable
neighbors and i am lucky that way. Ultimately
everyone is trying their best to make their living
farming. The original,post was about marketing, I
thought i would help with some marketing
information. I thought it was good advice for both
organic and conventional farmers. Take it or leave
it,.

[hobbyfrmr]

Pour farmer I have always found hrsw difficult to
sell for the reasons you describe. Then there is
the protein, dockage, falling number issue. I have
learned that the highest price is not the best price.
I have started growing soft white,. US millers find
it appealing and might sell for,premium. I am a fan
of higher yielding and sell into the feed market. If
it makes black ink I sell it. I also like to deliver it
instead of waiting months on end for elevator
space or some buyers whim I have been lucky
with feed wheat, feed peas, feed barley. It's not
much different than conventional farming, it's
about cash flow and profit margins.
If you have the ability to load rail cars, i would call
Scoular company in Nebraska. You order the
producer cars through the CGC. Do not let any
buyers order rail cars for you, you will wait for
months. Do it yourself. That's the fun/challenges
of organic farming. Do credit checks, and order
your own rail cars. Look after your business.
That's what any other company would do. Auto
garages, trucking companies, clothing stores,
hardware stores all use a method measuring
credit risk

[hobbyfrmr]

http://www.ehow.com/how_7920646_do-credit-
check-business.html

Some US buyers willingly offer their Dunn and
Bradstreet number.

[ProFarmer]

organic farmers aRE A WASTE of diesel. I grow a crop with 1 gallon of diesel my neighbor burns 5 for half a shitty crop of weeds. The chemical companies love them as they keep the weed pool alive... I GET A KICK AT watching their annual meetings in feb a bunch of cast out hippies telling stories as how they seed on a full moon and have no weeds, they all aggree sipping their organic hebal tea... They talk of one sale of product and start to dream.

[hedgehog]

when the oil runs out, everyone will have to be organic, its not that far off.
when i was organic, i did well, but you need security of tenure, which i didnt.

[oneoff]

So does that mean when we are all organic; that there will be no price premium. I think that is the end result.
But before then; the Walmarts will be pricing organic product competitively; and the growers price premium will be eroded to near nothing.

[hedgehog]

when we are all organic, the price of all grain will be stratospheric.

[pourfarmer]

profarmer, Your generalizations about MOST organic farmers
couldnt be further from the truth. I agree there are a few
hippy type tree huggers out there but they don't last long
in the ag world, these are the types of people the end up
with 10 acres in market garden. The majority of the organic
farmers I have met seem to have a vastly superior knowledge
of agriculture as compared to MOST conventional farms who
rely on companies like farmers edge or cps to tell them
what to grow and what fert/chem to use.

Im glad theres farmers like you out there who are too
scared of dandelions and wild mustard to pull your head out
of your ass and realize there's a market for organic food.
Ill keep taking my 300bux a acre profit with very little
risk while I watch all you 'big' conventional farms go
broke hiring farmers edge to tell you MORE
FERTILIZER!!!!!!!

[pourfarmer]

hobbyfarmer thanks for your information. I
am trying to get away from hrsw as well
move in soft white market when looking at
wheat in my rotation. what are guys paying
for a feed wheat these days?

[parsley]

One acre OR twenty thou acres ;

fifty-goat farmer feeding basil straw OR one
million bu rye farmer using coal oil fuel

::::::::: who cares what the other grows, or how,
or who buys? We grow to sell.

All of us are farmers! Support one another b/c
Ive noticed we are becoming endangered species
with fewer voices. Have you ? Pars

[hobbyfrmr]

I do not have current prices on feed wheat. I do
not like to repeat offers over a week old because
they can change. Buyers will pay well until the
mills are full then they drop the price considerably,
to send the message they do not want product at
this time.