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[ASRG]

ALLFARMER: If you would share......what are those heifers going to cost you? Do you see this as a better way than buying bred hfrs. in the fall? Do you have the bull power in place?

[ALLFARMER]

ASRG Hoping to pick them up for $1100/ea
900lb animals. Going to make the 6 hr drive
down to buy them myself. Need to visit family at
Westlock anyway, been kind of avoiding that, had
too face it this past winter dad has no idea who I
am anymore. Anyway have 4 very good younger
bulls (2yr old & 3,3,4) so good for what 30 each?
That's 120 so likely will have 128 to
breed....close enough??? My best guess is bred
heifers 1800 to 2000 this fall/winter. Looking at
the cattle futures charts cattle are overall trending
upward. If we start getting some real, amount to
something rain I plan to keep back a large
percentage of heifers for replacements. $1800 to
$2000 an animal is way too much for me
personally.

[SADIE]

Gardiner Dam area-----soft rains every 2-3 days. Couldn't get the last 5 pairs to PFRA pasture --corral areas just too wet to haul out.

Crops are lush, grass is lush. The third year now no need for starting pumps to irrigate hay or crop land. Good start this year again.

Open replacement heifers this spring in Saskatoon $1325.00 tops in sale. $1275.00 average.

Breds this fall????

[ASRG]

ALLFARMER: Sounds like a good idea. I doubt you would be able to buy bred heifers of any kind of quality for under $1600 this fall....so you should come out way ahead buying at $1100-$1200 now.
I have kept some black heifers out of my best cows and intend to breed them black. Going to turn the bull out June 20 for April 1 calves. Not sure if I will sell them in the fall or calve them out. I guess I'll see what the prices are in the fall.

[ALLFARMER]

Turned our bulls out last year June 28, first calf
Mar 28 so ya June 20th your should for sure
have calves by April. Better run neighbor wants
to trade track hoe hours for my dozer usage. I
have never run a track hoe before so today might
just be the day!

[grassfarmer]

If your 4 "very good young bulls" can only cover 120
heifers I wonder what they are very good at? I'd be
quite confident two of our 2 year olds would breed
120 heifers, maybe throw in a third if you have less
experience and want to feel re-assured.

[greybeard]

Have you still got some 2yr olds suitable for heifers?

[SADIE]

Allfarmer

Your bull ratio is very correct. 4 bulls for 120 head on range conditions.
That should give you the insurance you need to have your heifers covered first & second cycle.

You got them anyway so use them.

[grassfarmer]

greybeard - If that was addressed to me sorry, I'm out
of bulls for this year.

Sadie - "very correct" in your opinion maybe. How do
guys saying this explain a Longhorn? Mature bulls
with a scrotal of 28cm, a struggle to get enough
volume for a sample to test yet they'll breed half the
cows in the country, the neighbours included if you
give them a chance. At the same time lots of guys
breed 100 heifers with the aim of getting 70 or 80 in
calf. Good business for bull sellers suggesting 25-30
cows per bull but poor business for the commercial
rancher.

[ASRG]

Years ago there was a guy out by Hanna that used to sell Charlais bulls at two years old that had never seen a grain pail and were just run out on the prairie. They were like 1400 or 1500 lbs. He never helped anything calve.
They had a terrific reputation for being able to breed large numbers of cows.
I think his name was Bill Hunt, but I may be wrong.