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    #25
    On our range conditions we use a ratio of 1-17. Lots of years we don't see our cattle enough to solve problems as they arise. It is safer to turn out extra at the start and let Mother Nature look after any possible wrecks. This spring we were 80 calved in the first cycle.
    Heifers are bred in a pasture at 1-30 ratio. I like having an odd number of bulls in a pasture situation as it seems 2 are usually having an argument and the third is doing the breeding.

    Dad used to say that in a pasture situation on the prairies back in the 60's that a bull who couldn't look after 70 cows was not considered a good breeder. Not sure what the calving period length was though.

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      #26
      One hundred and twenty plus farmers owed multiple times $10,000 each and no one apparently has anything to say.
      Oh well; the less that look after their business; the easier it will be for the rest to get their 100% back.


      Thanks .

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        #27
        Who are the owners of Newco? How many
        companies in the past? What new company have
        they spun off? Thats important for us to know.

        Oneoff, have you found out?

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          #28
          Been too busy with other things to investigate. Hopefully the CGC bond will cover the 120 farmers that got ripped off; and then we will all be more diligent in dealing with anyone who has zero down payment.

          And just why shouldn't everyone insist on a 50% cheque at time of loading the farmer's grain. If the broker or buyer can't come up with payment; then its a pretty good indication that they don't have ready cash; and that there's a good chance you are dealing with someone in the shape of a Newco.

          I will later be going after Newco for NSF fees they have cost a person; and payment for hiring someone to witness the CGC claims form. Who has some further legetimate costs that should be claimed for this disaster?.

          Newco will be registered with the Corporations Branch in Alberta (no doubt); but I think the same information could be gotten from The Compliance Officers of the CGC.

          First lets get the big money back.

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            #29
            I have been told that the CGC does not pursue the fraud aspects of such a case.

            Individuals apparently are free to pursue those allegations and complaints as a seperate line against Newco. My guess is that involves lawyers; especially if multiple persons are involved. Apparently the law requires a lawyer to represent a group; and it can not be done by a lay person who could only choose to defend or represent themself.

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              #30
              I've learned the hard way that the poorest place to try to save money is by cutting back the bull power. Some guy's bulls might have a magic wand instead of a penis but those bulls are pretty rare.

              One extra is way cheaper than one too few.

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                #31
                Now time from a large animal vet's perspective:

                Poor bull power during the breeding season showed up every late summer and early fall. Witnessed many sad & unhappy producers at that time of year.

                Accidents will always happen, Broken leg, stifle, shoulder, lacerated penis, broken penis, lightning, visiting neighbors, sudden deaths.

                The worst cases were in those herds that showed up with high percentage of opens and late pregnancies.

                Weak breeding bulls----with testicles undersized were the most frequent.

                Allfarmer you can check those 4 "good bulls yourself" if you haven't turned them out yet.

                2 years olds--strive for 38cms minimum.
                tecture of those testicles "hard and firm" not soft and spongy.

                The scrotal circum measurement makes up 40% of the breeding score. It is a good start that a producer can do on his own to evaluate a satisfactory breeding animal.

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                  #32
                  Did you ever semen test any longhorns Sadie?

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                    #33
                    Yes I did. Longhorn bulls, Limousin bulls and at one time Blonde D Aquataine bulls fit into a catagory all of their own.

                    I remember on the Longhorns ---treat them like a bison. They got to be pushed up tight with a pole right behind. They are kickers.

                    Smaller measured nuts---those sometimes never got measured but fertile samples on ejaculation.

                    I posted the old data that is on all THERIOGENIOLOGY FORMS FOR SEMEN TESTING.

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                      #34
                      I'm sick of it!!! All it ever does is rain,and it is raining again now,and all we had to do was take the balers out of the qounset this time.

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                        #35
                        I would gladly take a bit of rain, we are at 1 1/4" since May 1. Most of that in the last week. Oats & peas were seeded last Friday. Just enough moisture to get them started but the last 2 days of sun and wind is drying things up fast.

                        Forecast is rain on Saturday.

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                          #36
                          We are at 3.5 in June, 6.5 since April 1st and will take
                          as much more as we can get. I think when the heat
                          sets in July/August things are going to dry up pretty
                          quick in a lot of Alberta.
                          I'm greedy when it comes to moisture, I'd rather have
                          excess than shortage every time.

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