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[oneoff]

charliep.... Whether I understand anything at all has next to zero relevance to the real problem that you correctly observe has been around since the beginning of time.

The problem is ; as you say; there has been zero uptake of some workable solutions by the industry. I submit that this results from the fact that the industry falsely believe it is not in their overall shortsighted best interest at this time.

All I would add is that the farmers that are affected the most remain largely silent and will have next to zero input in any changes which are sure to be imposed upon them.

And while fully realizing and accepting that few listen to myself; or join in the causes that need to be pursued; I still do attempt to ask hard direct questions to Dep't of Agriculture; the CGC auditors and compliance officer; the major brokers I may encounter, the industry spokespersons; my farmer contacts; the newspapers; columnists and any influential leaders that I seek out.

And most times all I see is apathy; lack of grasp of the real sitation and only rare sincere deep discussions of possible solutions.

And yes charlie; you are one of the few that often prods for a little further dialogue. But there is also a need to engage those who actually are going to impose the solutions.....before it happens.

[oneoff]

Its called democracy

And it takes interaction between participants.

And actual world wide discussions over forums such as agriville and the world wide web are the largest "G20" that individuals have ever been invited to.


Or maybe a relatively few individuals (so far) are just crashing someone else's party.

[oneoff]

charlie... If buyers and sellers can straighten up with a clearing house on a daily basis; then they can send cheques to each other in that same time frame.

Nothing could be simpler than when a farmer has fulfilled his contract (by loading, and I suggest having it weighed and having it received (say by a trucking company) and accepted and in someone else's pit a few hours later........ what possible excuse should there be that the farmers should not expect to be paid immmediately if he so desires.

And if the excuse is that there are further loads to be delivered; then lets get stupid and make out individual standalone contracts for each seperate trailer load.

[oneoff]

There is a way more going on that dishonorable farmers who renege on their side of a contract in a rising market. That happens in rare occasions.

There is speculation and gambling; and inadequate financing to cover oustanding receivables on the buyers side. That happens in rare occasions.

Even in this day and age; it takes months to move a 30,00 bushel contract through any major broker/elevator/trucking company. And thats because the railways/feedlots/buyer/end users all can't accomodate the inevitable delays/weather/unforseen happenings that are all outside a producers control.

And yet the producer end up shouldering most of every one of those risks that are someone else's responsibility.


And that is wrong....unless you will let producers run the whole show.

What a novel thought.