Adler vs Supply Management

[grassfarmer]

Oh man, what a dumb-ass Adler is - only in redneck
western Canada could a fool like this be considered a
"pundit" with enough credibility to be given air time.

He is outraged that dairy farms are so huge they have
a net worth over $1 million. Wow, He has no clue.

Didn't understand the man trying to correct his
misunderstanding of "corporate farms". Completely
wrong on this score.

Claims CDN store prices are 2-3 times higher than
the US which is gross exaggeration. Doesn't
appear to realize that the price milk sells for in the
store isn't the price the farmer receives.

Chose not to comment on the store price of chickens
or eggs although they too are supply managed
products - wonder why?

Wants to "free" dairy farmer just like grain farmers
were "freed" from the CWB. He will have a job
convincing dairy farmers they need to be "freed" from
the fruits of the most successful dairy sector in the
world.

As I've said before the whole issue is bogus. In my
own sector (beef) organizations like ABP have long
said "we" were being denied market-access to certain
countries because of supply management. I've asked
several times for them to name one country that has
indicated it would either allow market access for CDN
beef, or increase their importations of CDN beef if we
were to abolish supply management and they can't
name one because there isn't one - completely bogus
issue which is nothing more a than hostile trade
threat by foreign competitors. Time for Canadians to
smarten up.

[Fransisco]

[grassfarmer]

Lie #1 - that CDN consumers pay $2.30/litre and US
only pay 90 cents.
According to Conference Board of Canada research
Canadian consumers pay 60 cents more for a one litre
carton of whole milk.

[wilagro]

How about this article Fransisco?

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/letters_to_the_editor/supply-management-keeps-dairy-industry-strong-161655565.html

This flies in the face of your propaganda.

[ASRG]

Read the TPP? It isn't about supply management. It is about your return to slavery! Back to the same bullshit your great grandfather escaped from!

If you can't understand that....be happy and listen to assholes like Charles Adler...you deserve it.

[FarmRanger]

<i>"According to Conference Board of Canada research
Canadian consumers pay 60 cents more for a one litre
carton of whole milk. </i>

They didn't actually go into a grocery store in the US to find that tidbit of <i> data </i> did they?

It's time to seriously look at the best way to end the massive subsidies for a select few, and regain some credibility with our trading partners.

[wilagro]

Fransisco: You may read this article as well regarding the TPP. It is very revealing.

http://www.northumberlandview.ca/index.php?module=news&type=user&func=display&sid=1 6189

Warning: It is written by the Green Party...you may have a seizure.

Ahahahahahahahhahaaahhahaha

[grassfarmer]

"It's time to seriously look at the best way to end the
massive subsidies for a select few"

I agree entirely - and given that the supply managed
sectors are the only ones that get their entire income
from the marketplace I assume you must be talking
about the massive subsidies given to grain, beef and
hog farmers in Canada through Agristability etc?

[FarmRanger]

<i>"the supply managed
sectors are the only ones that get their entire income
from the marketplace" </i>

Hardly.

Most of their income comes from crippling import duties to keep prices artificially high to Canadian consumers, and impenetrable barriers to keep domestic competition out. The small remainder of their income is from “the marketplace”.

[tubs]

supply marketing is price fixing.

[grassfarmer]

No - clearly every dollar of their income comes
directly from the sale price of their milk. Subsidies are
the things given to support the "free market" sectors
- crutches like Agristability because farmers cannot
remain in business longterm producing below the
cost of production. Multi million dollar payouts every
year primarily to the hog barns, feedlots and grain
farms.
Supply management successfully addresses this
problem hence there is no need for Agristability or
other support programs for the SM sectors.

[FarmRanger]

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the price of dairy is above the "market" price.

Does it really matter where the subsidy comes from, whether from the Canadian taxpayer or a single Mom shelling out extra $ for her kids cheese sandwich?

The bitter irony is the ever increasing subsidies are being capitalized into "quota" and that money exits the industry with retirees.

Insanity.