Harper - tough on "crime"?

[ASRG]

sumdumguy: Where are you at? CAEPLA (Canadian association of Energy Pipeline Landowners Assc.) does a lot of good work....they are mostly in Sask. now.
Alberta Surface Rights Group in Alberta.
Website www.albertasurfacerights.com

Manitoba has a pipeline group, but not sure about contacts.

[grassfarmer]

It gets worse sumdumguy - the NEB has decided that
ownership of abandoned pipeline should be
transferred to the landowner. The pipeline company
will apply to the NEB to abandon the pipeline in place.
When the NEB approves the abandonment they no
longer have any jurisdiction - you are the proud
owner of an old pipeline. If there is contamination, or
if the pipeline collapses leaving you with a ditch you
are responsible. If your neighbours land gets
contaminated because the pipeline on your land acts
as a conduit to carry the contaminants onto his land
he could sue you for his remediation costs.

I think this is outrageous - you are not compensated
when you have wells or pipelines to take on this kind
of potentially toxic legacy. We don't get a share of
royalties, only paid for surface inconvenience so why
should we assume the risk/cost/hazard of the oil
companies abandoned pipeline?

Get in touch with CAEPLA if you want to get involved.
They have an important court date coming up Oct 30
where they want lots of landowners to turn up.
www.landownerassociation.ca

[ASRG]

grassfarmer: I'm not completely sure how NEB pipelines work but on ERCB pipelines you take the standard right of way contract and change under "the clause discontinuance and abandonment", the wording from "the grantee may leave and abandon the said pipeline or pipelines in place" to "the grantee may leave and abandon the said pipeline or pipelines in place.......with the written and signed permission of the grantor"

This puts the onus the pipeline company to either remove the pipe or pay compensation if you so desire?

This is best done in a schedule A addendum. You just cross out all of section 11 (Discontinuance and abandonment) and put your own terms in the signed addendum.

[Burbert]

We R after all Comedian framers. We love
ta be taken advantage of. All we want is
a level playing field? Angribusiness is
just that, a lotta angry guys/gals
clutchin and grabbin fer every penny they
kin get their slimey finger on! Divide
and conquer is what industry does each and
ever time. Why? Cousin it works each and
every time, greed and hate run the open
markets in Comedia, thats fer sure....