Simply said......

[SASKFARMER3]

Charley industry doesn't give a rats ass about the
farmer. They want them so far in debt to them that
they have to sell to keep the crushers going.
Broke farmers makes steady supply. When
farmers have cash and don't buy this prices are
high so we have to piss purple to get a crop at all
possible cost.
Follow the money.

[charliep]

Each elevator is a business unit and makes or losses
money. Big difference between turning inventory 3 to
4 times versus 6 to 8 times (at least some here
involved with in land terminals so you will have you
own targets).

Perhaps to the original posting, everyone has to run
their own partial budgets on what to spray. Will leave
price discussions for other threads but there is a
market for 100 % of whatever everyone grows at a
good price (realizing doesn't in some cases make up
for a poor crop based on individual situations). That
applies whether you have extremely good crop (quite
a bit of Alberta) or poor crops. The world is short
supplies - why prices are high.

[charliep]

SK3

Are you a broke farmer? I suspect not (you can argue
differently)? Are your land values for currently owed
assets going up or down? Will the supply chain
determine success or failure on a go forward basis or
will their purchase decisions around fixed assets
(land and machinery) and debt financing have more of
an impact on success or failure 5 years from now?

[bucket]

Charliep

I don't expect much from the industry.
But typically what they know is old
info. You seem defensive for someone
that reads the issues all the posters
here have this growing season, the
industry would be slightly concerned.

[SASKFARMER3]

Charlie its the same old bs, the grain companies
and suppliers want you to spend till your broke.
Then drop the price because some expert says
their is enough, the broke farmer liquidates
because he has to pay for all his spray, now soon
they will be trying to get us to pre buy chemicals a
year in advance, short supply. It goes on and on.
If mother nature and every thing you've done up
to the end of July a time comes when it's time to
go fishing. You can't make a silk purse out of a
sows ear.
Alberta might have a crop to die for but the rest is
a average,

[wd9]

My perfect plant stand, weed free and
prosaro sprayed disease free perfect wheat
crop didn't stand a chance against hail.
Next year i guess!

[SASKFARMER3]

Was that the Friday night storm or last night wd.

[farmaholic]

Sclerotinia is dessicating my canola crop as I type this. Going to be interesting as when to pull in with the swather, Pretty bad infection so what am I going to save-pepper or wait for the rest to catch up, let the pepper shell and take what's left. F@#K!!!

[SASKFARMER3]

Was that the Friday night storm or last night wd.

[TOM4CWB]

WD9,

We were in Manville yesterday.... Big storm.

Hwy 36 north of Viking angle across Innisfree... and on up... drifts of hail on 16...

Some crops as flat as the pavement... especially peas.

We got Canola and CPS zapped at Sherwood Park... not a good afternoon...

[hobbyfrmr]

" industry doesn't give a rats ass about the  
farmer. They want them so far in debt to them that  
they have to sell to keep the crushers going.  
Broke farmers makes steady supply. When  
farmers have cash and don't buy this prices are  
high so we have to piss purple to get a crop at all  
possible cost. 
Follow the money."
AGREED 150%.

Can I use your quote SF3 " broke farmers makes
steady supply"
Man I saw 16 years of that!

[wd9]

that was last night, shut down even the
vermilion fair tractor pull!

wow big damage. Edmonton to vermilion and
even up to lloyd had a wide carnage path,
lots of people lost huge percentages of
their crop. Provincial average certainly
took a hit.

Pea crops look like silage harvested.

[SASKFARMER3]

Wd hail sucks we lost 21 quarters a few years
back not fun. Hobby just got a text from Cargill rep
saying Bertha have arrived I should be spraying,
so I got our agrologist to take a drive and look, I'm
at the lake ps on leaving and heading home, just
got text back from our guy A ok! Had to really look
to find one.
Follow the money!
Charlie we all get the demand side, what ps us all
off is this bs attitude that in Canada it's a perfect
crop.

[wd9]

Its crazy this year, the good areas are
just getting knocked off rapidly.

21 qtrs takes a lot of beers to forget SF3
LOL!

[SASKFARMER3]

Had extra insurance that year but not even close
to a crop. None since to that size but we still buy
it.