Canola Seed

[cottonpicken]

Is the reason that they keep introducing new varieties
because the patent eventually runs out on that
particular variety and then we would be able to use it
free of charge?

Anybody know about this?

[TOM4CWB]

C.P.

The simple answer is NO.

Patents are different. Usually now Plant Breeders Rights apply to virtually every grain seed that is registered in Canada. As a seed grower we do not have old varieties that the royalties do not apply to and stop being charged.

http://www.grassrootsolutions.com/heritage-wheat/patents.html

[farmaholic]

Simply a way to keep increasing prices for the "NEW AND IMPROVED" varities. I'm not saying there hasn't been some advances in the benefits of some new varities but the seed cost has gotten out of hand as far as I am concerned.

[SASKFARMER3]

I'll say it again their was a spike in yields a few
years back but since recycled shit. L150 I have
had for three years few bags first year. It's been a
disappointment since it came out. Bayer will loose
4000 acres.

[freewheat]

In 1998, I was the first guy to grow
invigour in our area. The variety I grew
was 2153. It was 2.99 a lb. It came out
of the ground and GREW. Even the
cotyleydon pre first leaf got HUGE, no
joke. The last of the 20 series I grew
were 2573, 2663. They stand to this day
as my highest yielding canola on this
farm. They came up, they grew huge, and
stood well, better than the 2153. And
then something went awry. I grew 5020
and 5030 for two years, and never saw
that vigour ever again. So I quit
growing the stuff.

Finally, for rotation reasons of the
herbicide realm, I broke down and bought
some L130 this year. I will say to me at
least, other than a slow start because I
seeded too deep, (yes I will take the
blame, too wet to seed last year, and
tilled fallow and my seeder are
enemies!LOL) it looks FANTASTIC! It is
so late from being seeded June 7th, and
from poor emergence due to the above
mistake. But it did grow, and hopefully
it remains standing and does not freeze
until Sept 15th.

Perhaps Baye got their act together
again, perhaps not. All I know, is that
their original varieties I was getting
phone calls and roadside stops, and oohs
and awes for a few years there, while I
was keeping it a secret. Then it went to
pot. That is my thought on the evolution
of invigour hybrids. I remember old AC
Excel and getting 40 out of it spraying
poast and treflan and muster, and the
seed was 45 cents untreated, or 95
treated. GRRRR!!! Now we hope for
similar yields, and pay 10 bucks for the
seed, but at least no tillage and
treflan and such. lol

[cottonpicken]

Thanks Tom,i don't have time to read link,to busy
swathing a shit canola crop,but i also wonder if
someday normal patent laws wouldn't be applied
someday in a court battle???..dont know much about
the subject but the race to constantly different
varieties makes me wonder.

[charliep]

I will note that acreage for crops that farmers buy seed for every year (read canola) whereas crops that have the opportunity to use farm saved seed have either been stable or declining. Nobody has mentioned hybrid seed but also a part of this equation.

Someone will have to explain to me why most farmers push canola acres in their crop rotations to the breaking point of bad agronomics/too tight rotations and yet it is the only crop they complain about high seed costs/too many acres. Everyone will tell me they will back down on acres next year but I would bet 20 plus million will go in again in 2013.

[charliep]

first sentence - canola acreage has been increasing.

[cottonpicken]

Always ****in with me,as an actual farmer,and not
being afraid to play by the the rules,hard ball rules,if
a ****in seed patent expires like 5440 i would
capitalize on that mother ****er grow it and kick ass
to the bank,we pay the god damn techBECAUSE we
have to..................

[cottonpicken]

So how many moderators.owners don't get funding
from companies let alone the trading aspect?

[cottonpicken]

Ive shot this warning shot before,if anyone try's to
undermind this sit like agtalk I'm going to kick your
ass...

[ColevilleH2S]

Kick away CP. Kick away.

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LOL.

[SASKFARMER3]

5440 was way better thn these 150s. It's bs when
it's off patten it should be open they made their
millions.

[JDGreen]

Had 5440 and L150 side by side last year. 5440 looked and yielded better by a couple. So decided to grow only 5440 this year. It grew nice, straight up and swathed like a breeze. L150 fields appear thicker and lodged and leaned more but not sure if they will yield any better. Been custom swathing some and its a real pain in the ass to cut. The 150 did seem to handle the heat well but seems to have a little smaller pod than the 5440.

[wd9]

Varieties are not patented. It doesn't
matter what variety of RR or liberty
canola you grow, the intellectual property
rights is on the one or more genes within
the variety.