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    #16
    Wilagro,

    First come first serve... LIKE every other part of our economy.

    If a car dealer runs out of a certain model on sale... tough.

    If the price rises for bolts and nuts... that is as it is.

    When the ships fill up this fall... and the wheat needed has been procured... don't expect to cry back on us. Signup/Sell to the CWB pool... and you can have a place in the cue to sell as well.

    What could be fairer???

    Do you want to watch Gord Flaten C/W ExChair Oberg and his fellow 'Single Desk' Directors. They are telling us how the wheat market will race to the bottom without the CWB single desk... NOT me... your famous CWB Directors.

    Remember, Cam is as smart as Allen... who is as smart as Bill. These 3 CWB are 'Good Marketers' and will Fight each other to the bottom... of the 'market'... in the CWB's Single Desk' world. Very simple stuff... according to Gord Flaten.

    Just for you Willy...

    LEST we FORGET.

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      #17
      Wilagro....

      Force, violence, pressure or compulsion with a
      view to conformity, are both uncivilized and
      undemocratic. - Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

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        #18
        Tom, you were selective in your comments from
        Agriweek regarding wheat sales to the CWB and
        Grain Companies. The real theme in the article
        seemed to indicate that because farmers are not
        contracting and pricing wheat and barley for
        delivery, both CWB and Grain Co.s are hesitant to
        make sales to end users for new crop. The only
        movement is the CWB filling old crop orders in the
        neighbourhood of 3 mil MT. The point being that
        no one can risk making sales without first having
        price and known volumes of inventory on hand to
        offer at known price and volume. So wheat could be
        shut out this fall. The article (Where is the Pen) also
        points out that previous pre harvest wheat prices
        may be coming to an end with trends shifting
        downwards. It'll be interesting to watch.
        Pars, while I strongly supported the principle of
        single desk selling and price pooling, I had for a
        long time suggested to the Board that they be
        willing to issue no cost export licenses to individual
        farmers. The push back was that this would destroy
        price pooling as cherry pickers would fill the
        premium markets. My comeback was that the
        alternative would be fatal. So for about 20 years
        both the extreme lefties and righties pissed in my
        coke. But, I was right, was I not? And we still have to
        deal with the world's largest single desk marketer,
        the US Dept. of Commerce.

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          #19
          1. The CWB had no problem cherry-picking
          FARMERS to fill the Warburton contract which
          was a premium market. Unless a farmer
          genuflected CWB doctrine, there was no hope for
          an ordinary farmer to contract.

          2. The CWB could have easily issued export
          licenses to easily identifiable certified organic
          farmers. Instead they chose to expropriate the
          industry. The lot of them can go straight to hell.
          They abused their power, lost their common
          sense and lacked business acumen, and yes,
          because they were incredibly pig-headed, lost the
          single desk itself.

          I personally think the CWB as it was, lacked
          ethics, if not centrally corrupt within it's bowels.
          Just my humble opinion. The accounts set up
          selling CWB bonds Directly to farmers had no
          sales, offered interest rates higher than the
          market could bear, and was administered by
          highly educated professional managers who left
          their jobs to sell bonds to farmers. I do not know
          of one farmer who bought CWB bonds Do you?
          And all the personnel I cross-checked sported
          Liberal connections. At the very least, both the
          investing-idea and associates were an incestuous
          relationship

          Lastly, rocky, you are wrong. Any single desk,
          that is legislatively established, and administered
          by shooting someone through the head, the ass,
          or the pocketbook, is simply wrong, unethical and
          immmoral. You see nothing wrong with it.

          It's a little like agreeing attractive Newfoundlander
          Group One is allowed to have children but ugly
          Nunaviter Group Two is not. And all because the
          people in Group One lobbied for the denial
          legislation based upon looks.

          We will not agree. I accept that.

          But I do not want my business partners, such as
          the CWB, to act in a manner I view as
          abhorrent, which is why I am so very grateful the
          divorce from the CWB is final for many of us The
          good news is you can stay married to that ugly
          rotten bloody bitch for as long as you wish. Pars
          .

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            #20
            Wilagro, no point whining about what maybe
            could have been, its over.

            The discussion is over, the monopsony is
            over, it will not come back.

            Time to move on.

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              #21
              Parsley: as Mr.Spock would say, your 'logic' is
              completely 'illogical'. I sense there is less victory for
              you in achieving an open market than in destroying
              your arch enemy. Good luck in the future peddling
              your organic snake oil bs. I expected more, but you
              are just a vindictive little shrew who drinks too
              much not so interested in building towards the
              future compared to destroying and burying the
              past, while stomping in triumph over the grave with
              immortal self satisfaction. I'm actually more
              interested in the challenges coming up and about
              and the only ones I've seen looking ahead are
              Charlie P. and Cott.
              Go have a great day!

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                #22
                Wil you said

                "Anyway without any quotas whatsoever the "hogs" will get their grain to
                market and plug the elevators like in the olden days."

                So you are old enough to have been around in the pre CWB days? I would
                say that you and the rest of your crew at the home have seen your day,
                time to move on and worry more about controlling bowel movements than
                my grain deliveries.

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                  #23
                  Just as you did with Weber, you name call and
                  insult because you have neither the capacity to
                  debate the points, or the graciousness to
                  concede a point such as the one i made about
                  the Wheat Board themselves cherrypicking their
                  favourite farmers to supply Warburton.

                  You are a Wheat Board defender, and a single
                  desk defender. Now that we yanked that
                  toothache, I could care less.

                  As for vision, and looking forwards, I thought you
                  were able to observe that organics ambitiously
                  custom designed their own market , developed it,
                  regulated it, and are busy participating in
                  mainstream competition.

                  So, the 'forward looking' point you made....failed.

                  For the record, Rocky, and this is rather
                  humorous for me, I'm actually not a drinker, but I
                  do tip the occasional glass of wine, a few times
                  a month, and not even often refilled, In fact, I'm
                  known for my non-drinking which is outright funny
                  considering your presumption.

                  Yeaterday, you attacked Weber personally First.
                  Today, you attacked me personally. First.

                  It takes thinking and effort and logic to attack an
                  idea or a policy or a postulation. Otoh, t's easy to
                  attack the person: "You are fat and ugly and your
                  mother dresses you funny."

                  If you want to lash out successfully at someone,
                  you might try targeting their weak spot.

                  Btw, I regret having to suggest a promising tactic
                  for you to try.....
                  Parsley

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                    #24
                    Nicely said Pars. What did you think of the Strikeforce fights?

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                      #25
                      I'm such a Fedor fan, that no matter his venue, I
                      would watch. LOL. But
                      The womens' division has zero appeal for me.
                      They lack testosterone. Women fight their best
                      when they don't appear to be fighting at all A nd
                      win handily. ; =D lol. Pars

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                        #26
                        How is your harvesting going, Gregprt? I missed
                        seeing you at Kindersley. Pars

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                          #27
                          Short world crop this year. High, high,
                          high prices makin framers happy.
                          Gobermont firins at Herr Harpers wheat
                          bored, who gives a rats as@. If comedians
                          losed their jobs, they kin go out and work
                          on the fram. It is a win/win situation
                          for comedians in general hee, hee, hee!

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