Seed company liability limitations

[Hopperbin]

standability, yield, disease resistance and we pay for it. We bought it.

[Puckbag]

@ Hopperbin

I'm a seed grower...I'm not sure if I understand exactly where you are coming from when you tell me to eff off. Please enlighten me, I truly would like to know whats up.

[wd9]

I tend to put the seed in the bin, not
the swath.

Great comments and yup some real
frustrations too, somebody get Hopper a
drink, but where should the
responsibility of the seed company end?

At a crop stage? A date? If it
germinates in a lab to 90% does it stop
after the seed bag is put in your hands?
I would think the last one.

If you don't like a variety, don't grow
it again.

The first varieties sold out are the
newest and most expensive seeds. What
message does that send? Um, get a new
variety to be booked even before the
combine rolls on last years new variety.

Guess, what boys, its frickin working
and only gonna get worse.

[nicolaas]

it would be good to see more govt or canola council independent trials. enough with the trials put on by the companys. We pay taxes, and we pay checkoff

[Hopperbin]

Sorry to be ranting here of lately. But I am also a bit tired of the guys multiplying our planting seed trying to tell us its the best thing when all they are trying to do is sell the seed they have multiplied. Trying to make a buck. Seed variety may be no better than the last.

[fjlip]

By what we read, they might be getting worse.
Buying a new hyped variety guarantees zero. Those in test plots could not be the same as seed you buy for the next year. We have to trust them, chance a whole year. I was told to try several.

[SASKFARMER3]

Im not crying. What I am trying to point
out to some that just dont get it. WE
have been sold a shit variety that
replaced a decent variety and now pay
$10.00 a lb for it.
As a farmer Ill gladly pay 10 for seed
that is a true performer but the variety
L150 is $1.00 lb seed at best. Walmart
would sell it.
Its all about the
MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SASKFARMER3]

Off the topic but their is a field north
of Yorkton that had top dressing of diffident cocktails of Foliar fertilizer
on Barley crop. Well the guy was
swathing the fields yesterday and guess
what the whole field looks exactly the
same. Not one plot was higher or a
different color or bigger heads. So as a
Old HoeGrass rep yous to say we hit the
area for plots with 200Lbs fert and then
spray for disease three or four times
and when you come to visit its AWSOME!
have a beer. "BUY BUY"

[hobbyfrmr]

Seed companies are definitely trying to make money. Clever marketing like an alien speaking gibberish in the western producer is enough to open a farmers wallet. My 4 year old loves that advertisement and I shake my head. So insulting.
Why not lobby the canola council to communicate to seed companies to hang on to a variety. As described above, farmers pay a checkoff. Make the canola council work for you. It can be as simple as an internet poll. Layout all the varieties and farmers pick 1 or 2 of their favorites. The majority wins, and the council meets with seed company and says keep this one. I wont satisfy everybody, but its a little bit more sophisticated method of communication instead of telling the seed companies/growers to eff off! Hopper, I understand your frustration, but its just not the best way to get the real message to the seed companies.

[parsley]

Find someone you trust. Who knows farming.
Open a webpage. Enroll as a real person and get
assigned a user name One page could be
dedicated to varieties and your input would rank
them.

One page ranking companies' service from your
input One page etc etc.

All public. Plus info pages for farmers only. Pars.

[wd9]

I can appreciate the comments on council
doing a farmers job for them, but is it
just because you want someone else to
blame?

Have farmers become that lazy? I fear
so.

Do your own trials. I only farm 1300
acres but almost every year have at
least 5 different plots on the go. ESN,
variety, fungicide etc.


i also do seed company plots for them
and partner with them. They learn, but
God do i learn about new varieties. Its
win win.

Farmers need to take back control of
their farms, take responsibility for
decisions not blindly following
salesmen, agronomists, seed companies,
don't even get me started on companies
like Ohmex. OMFG!

With deregulation of fert products it
also is gonna be loaded with even more
snake oil.

Farmers have a lot of money and it would
seem naive as a school girl. Wake up
call time - companies don't have your
bottom line in mind, they have theirs!

Where does the responsibility of a seed
company end? Still looking for that
answer.

[Burbert]

Did ya hold back a sample of yer majic
seeds? Have it lab tested, if'n there is
no germ, maybe, just maybe ya gotta a case
fer liability agin the seed seller, might
need a lawyer ta git there attention
though! Summa the sellers try ta sell ya
old shit from last year, while tryin ta
get a new modern price fer it 2.