Seed company liability limitations

[nicolaas]

I think wd9 works for a seed company, or is in the council. saying it is not the councils job to help out farmers is nuts. What is the check off for?? Now I am supposed to do seed trials?? I am way to lazy I am afraid, and I lack the time and brainpower (lol). They bring in lots of money. Get their heads out of bayers/ monsantos ass and lobby for the farmers. That is their job. Unfortunately a lot of these young self made guys are sent down to the states on junkets by the companies, or are taken out to dinner a few times, get so impressed that they lose all common sense. They endup forgetting in who's interest they are working for! Maybe we are at the max that the canola genetics can reach... if thats the case why does the price keep going up?

[wd9]

Enough people on here, know who i am. I
am not a seed grower, used to be on ACPC
like 6 years ago. Not on any boards or
any affiliation with any seed companies.

I farm.

5440 is a good example. Was a great
canola but L150 is presumably better
according to Bayer. That's their
problem, not mine.

My original question was simply where
does the responsibility and liability
end of a seed company. Can be any grain.
There are no guarantees with any variety
whatsoever. All it has to do is meet the
criteria of DUS and germ. The rest is
marketing and hype.

Flip side, farmers buy the newest and
most expensive varietes as they are sold
out first. Now the farmer has in his
head this seed is the best and i'm
guaranteed to get the best crop and the
best yield. If they don't they want to
be comped bags.

Can you really not see the problem here?

[wd9]

rhoff, what are you gonna do about it?
Whine on Agriville? Sue Bayer? Get them
for false advertising?

Probably you'll buy L130.

[nicolaas]

understood, and point taken. I'm just bitching because the costs keep going up, performance stagnates. seed, fertilizer, equipment.... same thing. It use to be that if a farmer had 100 bucks, someone would take 99. Now if a farmer has 1000, someone will take 999 dollars. The scale is just getting larger and one has to put out more money everyear to put in a crop. everyone has bad years, and people have to realize that chasing the "promised" canola yields from the test plots only materialize when most things line up, and a couple of bad years will mean bankruptcy for a few extended farmers.
THis has been a wakeup call for some and I think you will start to see more rational crop rotations going forward, plus a lot more OP varities grown. Then again it will only take one good year to get everyone feeling invincible again!!!!!!

[rhoff]

Whining on agriville seemed fitting because you
sounded like a Bayer rep to me.