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I think Im high with my 14.6 m Canola Crop!

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    I think Im high with my 14.6 m Canola Crop!

    I think I am now high with my original
    back in July estimate for Canola. Why
    you ask because of something Tom and
    Charlie said on Agriville.
    See yes Manitoba isnt great, and Yes Saskatchewan is a shit show. But Alberta isn't going to get what they have been
    spouting.
    Why? Tom I guess is a very good farmer
    and the other day he said his Canola was
    35. Charley said it looks awsome from
    the road at 120 km.
    Well ask any one in Saskatchewan how
    well they thought their Canola was back
    in July and you would get a yes its
    great.
    Alberta has Hail storm after hail storm.
    Yet their going to on average see a 10
    to 15% above normal Canola crop. Just by
    the numbers of acres seeded and yield I
    thinks maybe alberta wont get to where
    their spouting now.
    Time will tell. Yes their is awesome
    crops out their but on a whole I don't
    think its as big as their saying.
    Just like Texas, No!
    WE will see but 13.9 is starting to
    maybe seem closer.
    Also now some HRS and Durum yields are disappointing.
    Yea its a bumper.
    Trust a farmer on Yield not a Suit in a
    office, or car tour at 100km.

    #2
    Totally Agree Saskfarmer. With what is going on in Western Manitoba as well as what i am hearing in others areas, any where around 14 or minus .2 is close enough. Simply not enough 40 bushel crops on the praries to make up deficits elsewhere.
    Was combining as swath last night for 50 bushels that will be lucky to make 20. And from what I hear around here that is maybe just abover average. Lots our 5, 10 and 15 bushels are being reports, and its mostly because aster yellow, most stuff got sprayed for sclorintina.

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      #3
      I am here in east centralalberta crop stand was great looled like a 40 bu crop at 100km hr but it only makes about 25 bu

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        #4
        Everyone is fixated on production (important for your bottom line but I not sure about impact on the market) but I would be following the demand side. I would separate your marketing into three periods.

        Remainder 2012 - How big a canola export program (traditional plus China/others)? How well covered is this program by farmer contracts? For uncovered crusher and exporter canola requirements, what will it take to keep farmer deliveries flowing to meet these needs? As much a basis play as futures.

        Early 2013 - Will monster oilseed demand continue for China? Acres and yield prospects Brazil and Argentina? How much canola was moved to end 2012? Actual western Canadian canola production and tightness of supplies? Price sensitive customers like China and their ability to switch to other oilseeds or slow consumption? A black swan event no one can even guess.

        Late spring summer 2013 - Realities of South American production and logistics. Acreage war and yield potential for US crop. Other stuff that impacts demand.

        I will note you are relying on China to continue buying. Concerns about supplies are causing China to forward book a lot of oilseeds as a hedge against running short of supplies. US is the only soybean source/extremely tight supplies and China is paying up. As soon as China gets covered to the extent it wants or becomes comfortable with South America, I think they will back off their monster buying. I highlight the inverses in the soybean market.

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          #5
          Talked to a fellow from Arborfield..He combined 2 1/4's of canola...One went 10 and the other was 4 b/a...Plus they are so wet that one field is totally ripe but they can't get on it...I think $14.00 canola is to cheap for the stress some farmers are going through ....

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            #6
            14.1, not all is shit..Not all is good but should be ok with ac involved

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              #7
              Charlie why do you think we are all locked onto the production number? It's because all the so called experts the first thing that comes out of their mouths is big crop coming so pressure on prices. I guess maybe you are revealing that those statements are all a crock of crap. Just like these prices are such a stress on the consumer get real these prices mean pennies added to what consumers pay, it's the middlemen fn us that don't want to be cut.

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                #8
                I think my number all summer - not based on
                anything but pulled out of my butt just to have a
                number. 20 million acres harvested (seeded 21.3
                according but likely lower given the spring) and 33
                bu/acre.

                I will acknowledge that the crop may be down around
                14 MMT but I don't think that will really matter at the
                end of the day. Canola is a follower of other oilseed
                crops and soybean/palm oil. It hasn't mattered all
                summer. To farmers benefit, crushers and exports
                have sold a monster crop this fall based on their
                expectations of a monster crop. The reality is likely a
                smaller crop and a struggle at points to get canola up
                the driveway. Crush margins are good today but I
                would expect this to improve futures and keep basis
                tight.

                2011/12 was amazing year to me. We sold a record
                crop (still suspect under estimated) - a demand lead
                rally with record exports and crush. I recognize this
                is a different year (likely are down closer to 14 MMT)
                but I get deja vu from the last 2 years. It has been
                the crop that has paid the bills in the last few years.
                What Canada grows means didley squat given we can
                sell every kernel.

                Canola prices are close to record highs. If you think
                futures are under valued, Texas hedge your crop (get
                long futures).

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                  #9
                  I will note a consulting company ARD uses has
                  soybeans in the $18 to $20/bu range for most of the
                  winter (not cottonpickens $24 but records). Soybean
                  meal closer over $600/tonne. Soybean more or less
                  hanging around the mid to upper 50 cent/lb range.

                  You have a strong look at $14 plus per bushel. Will
                  be very interesting to see how you guys market your
                  crop.

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                    #10
                    My production canola number 15 MMT - again not
                    scientifict. Just a number. I pay attention to the what
                    Canada can sell and at what price.

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                      #11
                      You are record. Here what was said last July.

                      [URL="https://www.agriville.com/cgi-bin/forums/viewThread.cgi?1341333780"]July 3[/URL]

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                        #12
                        I said this drop was shit show since mid July and
                        all the experts said I was wrong then once the
                        combines started to roll the truth came out that a
                        farmer was correct canola it is a shit show. Trust
                        what the farmer sees not what some hack says.
                        That's what farmers are pissed at the trade
                        wanted right up till the combines rolled to steal
                        this crop because us stupid farmers planted a shit
                        load and were going to over produce again, well
                        mother nature screwed us and them.

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