Saskfarmer3 ?

[mbratrud]

Daylate,

I have yet to find any changes to the
crop insurance requirement. Previously
if crop insurance was available to you
needed to carry 70 percent coverage. In
the too wet years you were considered
covered if you were in at the 50 percent
level.

Basically they claw back anything that
did cover yourself for. For example if
you had 50 percent coverage on Canola
and had a claim, if you qualified for an
Agristability payment they would claw
back the difference of what you would
have received with 70 percent coverage.

With the New and improoved Agristabity I
have yet to calculate a scenario in
which I would qualify for and Agstabilty
payment if I held crop Insurance.
Everyone will be different, and that may
not be the case for some. I haven't had
a production claim in crop insurance in
12 years and have yet to have an
Agristabilty claim, possibly 2011 with
40 percent seeded, but I am still
waiting to find out.

I am quite confident that as producers
look at the all new Reference Margin
Calculation most will come to the same
conclusion.

It is unfortunate Agristabily could have
been tweeked to prevent abuse but
instead the blew it up!

I am stunned by the lack of awareness of
these changes. Crafty move by the
Governemt.

Its all available in black and white on
the Agristability Website.

Global Ag Risk Solutions will be given a
serious look from our farm.

[mbratrud]

The negative margin and crop insurance as described is correct. As long as you don't run a negative margin, you won't have a crop claim calculated ansd included in your Agristability, thereby reducing your benefit.

I still stand by my suggestion of carrying a reasonable amout of crop insurance to avoid getting a lesser amount in total from Agristability

[SASKFARMER3]

I agree with sask99 every farmer should
carry the low end of Crop insurance to
protect them. We go with the 70%. Its
just where I chose to be.
Last 10 years 2002 frost took crop on Aug 8 disaster. Frost 2004 took crop
very early august again, 2012 crop is
poor on all early seeded go figure the
dog f&%^rs won this year. Sit in town
and have coffee and start seeding after
the may long won. Oh well not changing
what we do.
So simply if you loose like I described
in 10 years two are total fricking shit.
One is so so and 7 are good to above.
Most will agree this is farming.
But when it froze the first few days of
august you know you will not have much
crop. Waiting for Agristablility doesn't
cut it but getting a check from crop
insurance gets you along just fine.

[vvalk]

Hopper We have two farming entities and neither has ever had a payment from Ag Stability. As for the new Ag stability I too believe it has been cut to the point that it will rarely get used. Especially in Alberta where the crop insurance is a bit better. In my opinion you should not be able to participate in any BRM program unless you have crop insurance.

[Hopperbin]

And I still think we should have a choice in ins programs. So is anyone actually going to exit agristability?

[mbratrud]

I will likely carry crop insurance and
look at something like Global Ag Risk
Solutions. Agristabilty not a chance
unless the enrollment is almost free.

[Burbert]

Disaster, like extreme wet conditions make
Angristability a requirement, otherwise
many framers will have to exit!!!!! I
hate fu*king politicians and the way they
tweek gag programs, to suit their budget
shortfalls, lying scumbag, bottom feeding,
egg sucking, mo fks each and ever one.
Moving on now, theys talkin aboot raising
their wages and enriching their pensions,
WHODA THUNK IT DUHHHHHHHHHHHHH.....