No New Equipment Purchases for 2013.

[bucket]

I look at specs on a machine. The 9670 is the same machine as the 9770. The power is higher on the 9770. I buy the 9670 and run slower, no big deal. And for the price of a new one, I run two good used ones.

The 9500s were getting older and I don't like fixing but I could catch up to the green all the time.

[mbratrud]

Neighbor inquired about trading 8120 650 sep hours on a 8230 vs S680 JD the JD was $70,000 more. Just imagine if we had an .80cent Dollar. Holy shit. I too will be out of the combine market for a few years. 25% to 30% inflation on Combines in the past 2 years. What really pisses me off is 1 year warrantee way to stand behind your $400,000 Combine.

[Hopperbin]

Don't think a tr98 is going to keep up to a 8120 unless there is no crop to fill the combine. My operator starts complaining about tuff crop when he slows to 4.5 mph in a 36 foot swath lol.
I do think the old tr98s were a good machine capacity wise in their day.

[Hopperbin]

mbratrud I am guessing the trade to the 8230 was very close to 200,000 and your neighbour is shy to admit that also. So the trade to the jd would be 270,000 wow

[highwayman]

Cost to us to trade to new loaded up 2013 8230s
from 2 year old 8120s( 600 hrs) is roughly
42000/year. Still waiting for price on s680 but after
demo, don't really care to buy one. Two many
options that are missing which are standard
features on the caseih. Ran Deere for 28 years
prior to the 8120s

[mbratrud]

Hopper he was quoted a little over a
Hundred without headers.

[Hopperbin]

Highwayman double check if it is a 2013 or 2012 big difference in the engine emissions part 2013 should be tier 4. My local dealer give me a price and he called a 2012 a 2013.
That 2013 when sold may be considered a 2012 when resold. Your quote sounds too cheap actually. Who are you dealing with, I may want to check there.

[highwayman]

Hopper 2012 & 2013 models are both tier 4
engines and use DEF. 2013 models have other
changes coming including a new cab. Models we
were quoted we're 2013s and we were quoted on
4 pieces. Youngs Equipment.

[boarderbloke]

mbratrud, Hopperbin, highwayman,
as owner/operators, do you view the newer engines in combines using DEF, positive &/or worth while, something to move on, and bring into your operation? or do you view those engines as something to hold off on, see if they prove themselves and/or milk the hours out of the old one till you have to trade?

[mbratrud]

Have a friend that is operating 9230's
this year vs 9120's last year he says
the fuel savings is huge. And Power to
burn. Our fuel bill for combining this
year will be close to 3 bucks an acre.
From what I understand that could be
trimmed by 15 percent. Any others heard
this?

[furrowtickler]

Seeing the same thing in the new Massey/challenger. The new tier 4 Sissu is burning 3 gal/hr less with way more power.
6 cyl compared to the new 7 cyl though. Both rated about the same power.
Ran the new class 7 against a 4 year old class 8 A85. The new class 7 has more jam than even the class 8 and burns less fuel to boot.

[SASKFARMER3]

The new Massey swathers are way better on fuel
with DEF. can't believe but they are.