Liberty 5440

[freewheat]

Hey furrow, which clearfield did you
like? I have been leaning this route for
next years crop. TIA!

Also I would like to add, I am in no way
condoning the ridiculous seed pricing
these days when I spoke above of the
risks of soybeans. I would not hesitate
to try a quarter of soy, but to go whole
hog at this point is not prudent to
me... Yet at least.

[Daylate]

To begin with.U need good moisture at seeding for
germination because they have to be planted
shallow so they're in warmer ground, therefore out
faster. (3/4 to 1") nobody south of the border would
recommend that. Second, they need some august
moisture. A rain that would be no good for your
peas are ideal for soys. With that being said, too
much late season rain can make them act a bit
indeterminent. This has been my experience but
we've only grown them in 4 different years with
never more than 300 ac. in a year.

[SASKFARMER3]

Hey guys just in from the combine. My point is
canola costs are getting out of hand for what the
new varieties are giving us in return.
In my perfect world it would be 3300 canola 3300
cereal and 3300 divided up between oats peas
beans.
Freewheat not thinking of going whole hog but
getting tired of canola a costs.

[Daylate]

Every year i grow them i get more confident with
them.

[farmaholic]

After talking to another fellow about this topic, he told me he could get it for $10.23/lb.($11.00 minus 7% early book discount payable Dec 31). I was honestly too busy laughing at the guy who quoted me(I had to ask twice for clarification, I was in the combine so I thought I never heard him clearly) to realize my quote of $11.80 probably qualified for the same terms, thus about $10.97/lb. What's up with the difference. I was suffering from Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price shock. Just like buying a vehicle/machinery, MSRP less rebates and discounts. They will never reduce the MSRP(remember pre and post 2008 pricing) but will discount it to make the consumer feel like they are getting a deal, what an insult to consumer intelligence!!! Oh yea, I can have the honor/luxury of paying for it at least 4 months before I need it, instead of getting terms of 30 days from when I pick it up in spring, in exchange for those tremendous discounts. Shame on me, I am so ungrateful!

There are alot of posters on Agriville compared to the contributors to this thread, you've got to wonder what the silent majority is thinking.

[Hopperbin]

I hear you, When I purchased the L150 just after new year I was wanting not to go with it, then the supplier manufacture combo came up with some scheme where I would get can't remember any more if it was extra bags of seed or was it free chemical of some sort to bring the seed cost under 10 a lb. At the end of planting I stuck about 12 bags of seed back up their ass. Now I dam near need help from my accountant to figure out just what dam happened.

[boarderbloke]

Daylate, is there much differance between varieties, on the height inwhich the lowest pods are attached? Looking at some down here, SESK, and notice that the very lowest pods are attached to the stem about 1-1.5" above the ground with the end of the pods resting on the ground. Pick up reels will do nothing to lift them, a drapper header will barely cut lower than 1.5", will a flex header get under? The secondary branches seem to curve outward before they go upright, so all tolled, there are alot of pods down that low! (this crop has many secondary branches, 4,5,6 even, should be a good yield)
With the heat we had this year, I thought the plants would have grown fast enough to get those lower pods higher up the stem?

Any comments from bean growers appreciated.

[sumdumguy]

Who is paying for research on Soy Beans? Short
season beans will really change the landscape,
eh SF3?

[SASKFARMER3]

Short season beans will give me another option.
Peas have issues, canola costs are getting out of
hand, they have screwed most farmers into a
corner with all the costs to grow canola. I blame
the seed and chemical companies. Looked at my
old books from back in 1977. Guess what canola
made me money lots back then. I was in control.
Now every one takes a piece of the pie, guess
what 2012 they get it all and then some. Yea
these shit varieties are hurting us.

[SASKFARMER3]

The add below says the smile says everything.
Hm I don't have a smile bayer, I'm pissed, most
neighbors are pissed, we don't have a smile,
phoned the rep he doesn't have one either. Some
thing in your add is wrong.

[MBgrower]

boarderbloke:

There is a difference between varieties for podding height, but generally they all pod quite low.

And some years when the beans are shorter than normal due to adverse growing conditions, the pods are even lower to the ground, making it even harder to cut, so that needs to be factored in.

Most guys in MB use flex headers with attached wind reels to blow in the plant material, but starting to see more flex d****r headers.

Get a big flex or flex-d****r header for beans to maintain combine efficiency, as ground speed will limit your combine capacity. If you drive to fast, you will miss too many low pods.

Also, if you have stones, land rolling is a must.

This year, the plants were tall, and podded high, even a straight header would have done the job. To encourage taller plant growth, grow beans in 15 or 20 inch rows by plugging every second run on your air drill, or use a corn planter.

[Mufferaw]

In 2010 - 5440 was $9.68/lb picked up in May no early booking discounts.