CaseIH 8010

[bluefargo]

I know this is a marketing forum but there just isn't enough action on the machinery site. I know this bugs some of you so my apologies in advance.

We bought an 2004 8010 at the last Ritchie Bros auction. It turned out to be a great combine for our relatively small acres except for the fact that the rad needs blowing out 2-3 times per day or more if wind and chaff conditions are bad. The previous owner installed a reversing fan which would probably be OK except when it reverses it plugs the air filter.
There is a pile of these machines out there. Has anybody come up with a solution? Any help would be much appreciated.

[HFL]

I thought the plugged air filter was common on these combines and had nothing to do with the fan reverser. Theres an 8120 in this area and it sounds like the air filter is plugged twice a day.

[riders2010]

Don't worry it's not really a commodity marketing forum, because if it was we would be finding ways to gain more control of the market by controling what we sell, promoting our product etc. and therefore determingin the price we get. All that is discussed on here is who can best predict when to dump our product at the right day that the price is highest, not the price it should be. But the powers that be have enough farmers convinced that the key is competing against each other rather than working together to have some market force.

[tubs]

i had a 8010 and had no problems accept the airfilter I now have a 9120 and combined over 4000 acres with the same airfilter and cleaned the rad maybe twice .

[TOM4CWB]

Riders,

I hope that was 'tonge in cheek'. We work PRIVATELY with many folks... pooling, selling together, and innovating grain sales. Why would we expose our plans... and betray confidences?

Folks like Cotton and Errol express interesting perspectives... even I do from time to time. In marketing TIMING is the biggest factor to price.

To think we should do as the praire pools did in 1929... with hold our produce... not use conventional risk mangement tools... and expose ourselves to this ideal folly...

Marketing COSTS PERSONAL time and money. Just as does production... equipment research on R and M... and how so many MOCK the NEW CWB pooling system... that were sooo in favour of the mandatory CWB 'single desk' that used to dump our personal farms' grain every day of the year... is beyond me.

Rider... have YOU marketed any grain through the new CWB pools?

[riders2010]

The new pools are no different than the old. They are not going out and saying we have this much product and will accept only this price minimum, all they are doing is going out and averaging price recieved trying to pick the best days to sell.

You are stuck on the ME concept of doing better than the neighbor at picking the right day. Real marketing involves picking the right day but also promoting and using what ever advantage your product has to gain a higher price. If we all told the crushers look no 16 bucks for canol no sale what would they do?

[Burbert]

Neighbour would rush in and sell cheaper
than our demands BECAUSE well he has got
some bullsh*t reason or other to do so.
In Comedian framing, its a dog eat dog
world, framers hate one another nowadays
and are greed driven, they'll step on
anyone or all to get ahead. Cooperation
is as dead as the doooo dooo bird, thanx
to Herr Harper and his Ritz cracker gag
minister.

[charliep]

Always interesting the twists and turns of a thread. Moved from a question about a combine to the cooperative/regulated marketing to a debate on the CWB. I am okay with the discussion on the combine - an area for farmers to talk about whats on their mind and more relavent to farmers day to day decisions than half the political crap that is discussed here (IMHO). Participants chat area, however, and you decide the direction and tone of discussion.

[gregpet]

Ask the local dealer about any updates. Turn your spare speed down and maybe adjust the funds on the spreader to blow downward instead of straight out.

[gregpet]

spreader not spare

[ALLFARMER]

I see beside the highway near Falher a 8010 or
similar machine burned to the ground.

[rhoff]

Check the airscreen door and make sure it is
sealed all the way around. If hinge has the
slightest tweek it will leek around seal. We put
some more weatherstripping on ours to
compensate for that. We usually blow our rads out
every 50 hours or so just as preventative
maintence and have never had heating issues.
The air cleaner will plug prematurely if the
asperator is plugged but even with that working
our air cleaners last one day max. 8120s all got
an update so that air cleaners suck from the top of
the rad and that works for about 75 -100 hrs. Guy
at dealership told me before next harvest that
update will be available for 8010s. We have two
8010s and the rads have never caused us much
trouble so I wonder if your door isn't sealing
100%?

[TOM4CWB]

Riders2010;

If investors decide the market is too high for grain... do you REALLY think some farmers in Canada can stop the overall market from falling?>

The prairie pools thought so in 1929.... and our CWB for decades strove to brainwash growers in western Canada that we can hold others at ransom... and force the 'market' higher.

Are you insinuating... that we growers who sold at $1/bu higher for Wheat and Canola.... SHOULD have NOT sold ourr grain... ?>??

Do you really think... that western Canadians have any significant ability to force wheat, oilseeds, or feed grains in these vast overall world grain markets... up?

Show me the economic data to back up your theory!

Cheers!

One of the neighbours bought a kit for his 8120 for $3500 that does extend the amount of time between cleaning the air cleaner... thoughts are this could be retro fitted onto a 8010.

All the best!

[oneoff]

What do you call 1000 economists at the bottom of the ocean? Just like the answer to the lawyers joke..."Its a good start".

I would have thought that some of the evils associated with politics and religion would be seen to have a significant effect on society. Maybe because you can't graph subjective assessments of human behavior; you think it has no relevancy in a quest to squueze the extra nickel out for Me, Me and Me.

[rhoff]

Bluefargo we also found with the dryness this
year we are better off with are chopper knives
down all the way and our chopPer as slow as
possible. FYI if you happen to ever set your
chopper slower you must drop the knives or bad
things can happen.