oneoff

[sk_wheatking]

You have some real issues there. It's
always interesting to read the stuff
here on agriville but your political
garbage is sickening. Maybe I'm the only
one that thinks that way I don't know
but you need to get some kind of help.

[Taiga]

Oneoff. Nothing has changed.

[oneoff]

Oneoff. Nothing has changed.

Care to defend that 15 dead within a week after being vaccinated report. And all in a "local" setting.
Troll?? Absolute incorrigble liar to nth degree???
Anyone else notice and listening to the Taiga
toxic venom.

[Taiga]

No I am not telling you where I live, that is disrespectful.

But here are 100 deaths you can dig into.
Hard to imagine someone being so brainwashed that they can’t comprehend something so simple. Will require you to read something other than your current propaganda. Unless you want to attempt to discredit PubMed. There are literally hundreds of these disclosed now.

“ Most nursing home patients have a short remaining life expectancy, but vaccination may have accelerated a process of dying that had already begun. “

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34018389/

[the big wheel]

No I am not telling you where I live, that is disrespectful.

But here are 100 deaths you can dig into.
Hard to imagine someone being so brainwashed that they can’t comprehend something so simple. Will require you to read something other than your current propaganda. Unless you want to attempt to discredit PubMed. There are literally hundreds of these disclosed now.

“ Most nursing home patients have a short remaining life expectancy, but vaccination may have accelerated a process of dying that had already begun. “

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34018389/

You do realize that only 10 of those 88 year old average
Had a probable reaction to the vax. As compared to
Nearly always everyone being wiped out at those
Facilities by the virus without measures or rhe vax
Why is this so difficult to
Figure out. Holy crap some people. It’s bizarre.

[oneoff]

No I am not telling you where I live, that is disrespectful.

But here are 100 deaths you can dig into.
Hard to imagine someone being so brainwashed that they can’t comprehend something so simple. Will require you to read something other than your current propaganda. Unless you want to attempt to discredit PubMed. There are literally hundreds of these disclosed now.

“ Most nursing home patients have a short remaining life expectancy, but vaccination may have accelerated a process of dying that had already begun. “

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34018389/

Do you really buy the bullshit you are selling?

And just to be clear..I could care less where you live...BUT you and your supporters are challenged to just repeat that 15 dead in a week (in one localized spot due to vaccination) bullshit. Tell us the lie again if you dare; because some day that gross deception will out you and your naive brain dead supporters who ARE causing needless deaths.

Just maybe there was a major building collapse, bus/train accident etc but more likely this story was deliberately just made up based on your imagination and no facts whatsoever.

[oneoff]

Taiga has led us all to the supposed source that Abstract

Background: In the period 27 December 2020 to 15 February 2021, about 29 400 of Norway's roughly 35 000 nursing home patients were vaccinated with the mRNA vaccine BNT162b2. During the same period, the Norwegian Medicines Agency received 100 reports of suspected fatal adverse reactions to the vaccine. An expert group has examined the reports and assessed the extent of a causal link between vaccination and death.

Material and method: The expert group worked in two pairs, each of which examined 50 anonymised reports. Each member first examined the reports alone and classified the causality as unlikely, possible, probable, certain or unclassifiable. Each pair then discussed their results until they reached a consensus. All four experts assessed a random sample of 20 reports. The degree of agreement was assessed using weighted kappa and McNemar's test of symmetry.

Results: The mean age of the patients was 87.7 years (range 61-103 years). Among 100 reported deaths, a causal link to the vaccine was considered probable in 10 cases, possible in 26 and unlikely in 59. Five were unclassifiable. Weighted kappa was 0.40 and 0.38 in the two expert pairs, respectively.

Interpretation: Most nursing home patients have a short remaining life expectancy, but vaccination may, in a few cases, have accelerated a process of dying that had already begun. Nursing home patients should still be given priority for vaccination, but the benefits versus risk must be carefully weighed up for the frailest patients.was being referenced: Compare this to what Taiga actually led agriville readers to believe (15 deadd all within a week (locally)


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[oneoff]

Taiga has led us all to the supposed source that was being referenced: Compare this to what Taiga actually led agriville readers to believe (15 dead all within a week (locally))


Abstract

Background: In the period 27 December 2020 to 15 February 2021, about 29 400 of Norway's roughly 35 000 nursing home patients were vaccinated with the mRNA vaccine BNT162b2. During the same period, the Norwegian Medicines Agency received 100 reports of suspected fatal adverse reactions to the vaccine. An expert group has examined the reports and assessed the extent of a causal link between vaccination and death.

Material and method: The expert group worked in two pairs, each of which examined 50 anonymised reports. Each member first examined the reports alone and classified the causality as unlikely, possible, probable, certain or unclassifiable. Each pair then discussed their results until they reached a consensus. All four experts assessed a random sample of 20 reports. The degree of agreement was assessed using weighted kappa and McNemar's test of symmetry.

Results: The mean age of the patients was 87.7 years (range 61-103 years). Among 100 reported deaths, a causal link to the vaccine was considered probable in 10 cases, possible in 26 and unlikely in 59. Five were unclassifiable. Weighted kappa was 0.40 and 0.38 in the two expert pairs, respectively.

Interpretation: Most nursing home patients have a short remaining life expectancy, but vaccination may, in a few cases, have accelerated a process of dying that had already begun. Nursing home patients should still be given priority for vaccination, but the benefits versus risk must be carefully weighed up for the frailest patients.





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[SASKFARMER]

One off or two bricks short or whatever you go by.

My folks are 93 and 88 living in a private care facility yes they are level 4 so still have their own condo but can get food in the restaurant.

But guess what they have had both shots since April and 98% of the people in that facility are vaccinated. But we all know they are old and could go any day that is life when you are almost 100. They were at our home on the weekend and Dad said that every morning you wake up is a gift one day you don't. But making shit up massive deaths hahahah is a joke. It's an old folk home go visit one day you see Pete the next morning Pete didn't come down because Pete passed in the night.

I didn't know you were a disease specialist oneoff. Or just a guy reading articles that suit you and making shit up. How about using your brain it's old folks' home people are there because they cant look after themselves and at an elderly age people die.

Now the unvaxed I wish them luck because we maybe can still spread it if were vaxed but when you catch it and you will your the one in the hospital and once they put you on a ventilator your time on this planet is almost up most don't ever come off and check out in a body bag. That is some free advice from a husband who is married to a medical person.

[oneoff]

Taiga has led us all to the supposed source that was being referenced: Compare this to what Taiga actually led agriville readers to believe (15 dead all within a week (locally))


Abstract

Background: In the period 27 December 2020 to 15 February 2021, about 29 400 of Norway's roughly 35 000 nursing home patients were vaccinated with the mRNA vaccine BNT162b2. During the same period, the Norwegian Medicines Agency received 100 reports of suspected fatal adverse reactions to the vaccine. An expert group has examined the reports and assessed the extent of a causal link between vaccination and death.

Material and method: The expert group worked in two pairs, each of which examined 50 anonymised reports. Each member first examined the reports alone and classified the causality as unlikely, possible, probable, certain or unclassifiable. Each pair then discussed their results until they reached a consensus. All four experts assessed a random sample of 20 reports. The degree of agreement was assessed using weighted kappa and McNemar's test of symmetry.

Results: The mean age of the patients was 87.7 years (range 61-103 years). Among 100 reported deaths, a causal link to the vaccine was considered probable in 10 cases, possible in 26 and unlikely in 59. Five were unclassifiable. Weighted kappa was 0.40 and 0.38 in the two expert pairs, respectively.

Interpretation: Most nursing home patients have a short remaining life expectancy, but vaccination may, in a few cases, have accelerated a process of dying that had already begun. Nursing home patients should still be given priority for vaccination, but the benefits versus risk must be carefully weighed up for the frailest patients.

OK so it was supposedly 29400 vaccinations in Norway' nursing homes and over a 50 day period 100 deaths occurred in those personswith a median age of about 88 years of age. Some as old as 103.

At least give us the fact that at 103 years of age; any person is living on borrowed time. Remember 10 out of 29,400 over 50 days isn't a new "pandemic"

Now; it was found that 10 of those deaths "probably" died with some of the contributing factors of the deaths attributable in some way to the vaccine received earlier. That figure and time stretched to 15 actually dead in a week. IN ALL OF NORWAY which isn't exactly local.

Perhaps we should accept that not all of the frailest/oldest/members of society are categorized as typical of the rest of the members of society.

Also perhaps admit that it isn't nursing home residents who now typically inhabit the ICU wards around the world. Sure that subset of society was hit hard and cruelly in the early days of the pandemic; but just maybe the difference today is that those remaining (and new) nursing home residents are among the world's most vaccinated persons...and it would seem are proof positive of the Covid vaccination's worth even among the eldest persons alive today.

Taiga should stick to reporting the data; let others with a more open mind analyse it and perhaps admit the damage that false reporting and personal lies does cause.

[TSIPP]

I ranch, I vaccinate calves, I don’t think I’ve ever lost a calf to a vaccine, we all know that a calf can have a bad reaction to a vaccine but my dad was vaccinating calves and he lost seven calves that day, I don’t think he did a hundred that day, maybe a bad Bach? I don’t know but even I know that if the very elderly are getting vaccinated some people aren’t going to make it.

[oneoff]

QUOTE "One off or two bricks short or whatever you go by.


I didn't know you were a disease specialist oneoff. Or just a guy reading articles that suit you and making shit up. How about using your brain it's old folks' home people are there because they cant look after themselves and at an elderly age people die. "UNQUOTE

You're a little late to the party Saskfarmer.
Perhaps you missed that Taiga is the one selling and attempting to sell that vaccines kill seniors in a wholesale manner. . Before you slip in those snide comments about others; such as myself; and before you balance up who is short bricks and who has it all figured out; please at least get your facts straight.

You let Taiga's misinformation about 15 elders in care homes all dying in a week (purported even locally) without ever making a comment; then when someone gives you the original Abstract that says nothing of the sort... Saskfarmer jumps on the messenger; then repeats the same message as I originally made.





It may come as a complete surprise that every other word in your response raises absolutely no issue with me. But to balance off what the Taigas don't want to hear with what you insinuate about myself is not reasonable.

THE "SHIT" YOU CLAIM I MADE UP IS THE SAME "SHIT" YOU PUBLISHED ABOUT YOUR MOM AND DAD.

I certainly do not understand that reasoning....nor you as the author.

[oneoff]

For further clarification Saskfarmer.

The 8th post in this thread comes directly from a link provided by Taiga in a slightly earlier post.

The ABSTRACT in post #8 is cut and pasted from that medical web page that Taiga directed us all too.

It appears that Saskfarmer did not do his homework and needs to be told to see for himself; by actually verifying that those words in the ABSTACT are not my words; but are what Taiga apparently used to deceive lazy Saskfarmer who just just gave hints about how many bricks short he may come up wanting.

[Partners]

Sask total covid cases..50,477.
Total deaths 582.
So not quite all people were on ventilators and died.

[Taiga]

It’s easier to believe you are in grave danger of the Covid monster and the vaccines will save you and that there are no reported or documented side effects. After we take care of the elderly, let’s focus on the next group that pose a threat to us -> the truly scary 6 month olds!
It’s ok Oneoff, you are not being selfish, your safety is #1. You make very convincing arguments, do you attend the same Toastmasters as Foragefarmer, Tweety, and Big Wheel by any chance?