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[Hopalong]

Tom, do not always agree with you but
congratulate you for holding your ground in the
face of cursing and name calling.
Hang in there.

[sawfly]

tom you are dead wrong ,

de registration . makes the variety illegal to sell in canada.

i was just at the Canadian food inspection agency web site.

check yourself on registration.

the pbr holder can give notice ,
and within 3 yr.s , it has to be gone
1 yr with hybrid canola

everyone should read it .
easy to find.

so in effect any pbr var. can be made illegal by a request from the holder.

perfect way to force us into the
collect royalty every year, seed.

i though you were the expert here.

[wd9]

But, if farmers own the varieties, then we
are the holder.

[TOM4CWB]

If the variety is 'cancelled' then it cannot be sold as that variety name any longer... but obviously can still be sold as grain.

Red Fife... is NOT a registered variety in Canada. Red Fife cannot be sold using the Seeds Act and Pedigreed seed system as pedigreed seed.

Red Fife is still in western Canada. It is not illegal to sell it in a loaf of bread at a farmers market... or even to an elevator.

My bet is that if you took that Red Fife south of the 49th... and the falling number was over 300... your could fetch a good milling wheat DNS price for Red Fife. Same for Thatcher.

While there many be reason to change the Seeds Act to put a 'Public Interest' into deregistration criteria... that is totally outside C-18 and UPOV91.

Once again. NOTHING has changed under C-18 to speed up or slow down deregistration of Varieties now registered in Canada. In fact if you checked the program being brought forward to streamline the registration process... IT WILL BE EASIER to REGISTER new varieties... in the future.

So you can reregister that 'old' variety if it is great for your farm... or just keep on growing it... if it is good quality... under contract even... with your elevator.

Now have a great evening!

[TOM4CWB]

BTW Sawfly,

PBR registration is a completely different process than the Variety Registration process.

If you want to... you can PBR register a type of wheat...NOT register it as a variety... and grow all of that type of wheat you want grown.

There is NO requirement whatsoever to PBR register your 'new' or 'old' grain/wht... in fact as a plant breeder specific limitations must be met to have a PBR registered product. Root crops, tree crops, fruit crops, and many other vegetative species that have special breeding are PBR.

If the specific genetics have been 'leaked' out before the release and PBR registration is completed... then THAT plant PRODUCT CANNOT QUALIFY for PBR registration.

AGAIN Variety Registration and PBR Registration are totally separate processes. Once a variety is registered... it remains registered for ever... unless the plant breeder requests deregistration. Many of our public varieties will remain registered... until the last seed stocks are gone... because of the 'public interest' and funding source that created that public variety.

You do a great disservice to the many plant breeders who take the 'public interest' VERY SERIOUSLY... and the many Select Seed Growers who totally support public varieties, increasing stock seed to insure you do have high quality genetics to plant... whether a public... PBR... or general release seed grain.

BTW PBR responsibilities are much stricter and restrictive... purity and the stability of the genetics are checked to assure the PBR product meets these higher standards. If they don't... PBR is lost... NOT the Variety... it becomes public.

[oneoff]

Your RM council might very well be on record as calling for a ban on Hungarian partrige, parairie chicken and white tail deer hunting due to the danger of extinction of those species and the concurrent daage to the ecosystem.

But not a peep about about UPOV91 and a looming crisis on several obvious agricultural fronts surrounding grain; beekeeping and maybe even livestock (sick and dying piggies for instance).

Maybe we are meant to suffer through every potential manmade catastophe.

[oneoff]

Your RM council might very well be on record as calling for a ban on Hungarian partrige, parairie chicken and white tail deer hunting due to the danger of extinction of those species and the concurrent daage to the ecosystem.

But not a peep about about UPOV91 and a looming crisis on several obvious agricultural fronts surrounding grain; beekeeping and maybe even livestock (sick and dying piggies for instance).

Maybe we are meant to suffer through every potential manmade catastophe.

[SASKFARMER3]

Tom I always stand up for the farmer, lately your
acting a little weird. This seed thing I don't believe
has been thought out very well. It's going to
definitely change things and not for the. Better.

[blackpowder]

I have an idea Tom.
Let's adopt Upov 91 provincially.
See where the Non provinces get there seed in a
few years.

[bucket]

As was mentioned in one of the emails I received today quoted by a conservative MP.

" ... but we didn't know..."

And they don't now about the impacts of anything they do. They don't do due diligence. Pretty simple stuff.

Flags and spidey senses go up when I read shit like that. That and their incompetence on the current crisis.

TOM doesn't fully know the impact of these new rules just like the conservatives have proven they couldn't successfully implement an open market with something as simple as a transparent reporting system.

Even though all they had to do is get the program from the USDA.

[wd9]

I'll try again. Wouldn't farmer owned
genetics be better served by UPOV91?

[grower99]

Do you really believe this program has
farmers' interests at heart? The pulse
industry is totally different. The pulse
levy pays for most of the research.