Water,water

[bluefargo]

Let me make it clear. I'm not comparing our situation with the terrible flooding in SE Sask and SW Man. My heart goes out to you.
My point is that in addition to the 100 -200 mm and more rain areas there is a large soggy area that covers a big part of the prairies. Here we have a situation where roads are slowly but surely going underwater. The main road to our place is now officially covered. Getting to our fields is a big issue. Many fields with flooded areas. We are east of Saskatoon far from the main flood area.
This is the most water we have had in living memory.

[grassfarmer]

So with all this going on is anyone on here prepared to reconsider their views on "climate change"? Looks pretty obvious to me that this is just another event that fits the predicted models of more extreme weather patterns. Warmest May ever recorded on a global scale just happened. Last month that was below average temperature on a global scale was February 1985.

Now I'll admit we can't be 100% sure the cause of the changing weather patterns/temperatures but the proposed solutions are worth implementing regardless.

Time to wake up folks - we now live in a world prone to more severe weather extremes - hotter hot, colder cold, drier dry and wetter wet. Time to do something about it.

[Kodiak]

Can anyone make a rough calculation as to how may millions of acres or production is affected? The extent of this devastation is larger than anything in recent memory. I don't think it's backyarditis, when I say the S&D's suddenly changed this weekend.
Larry Weber - you are good at this stuff.....

[SASKFARMER3]

Kansas has no wheat report today to do extreme weather, that's rain tornados and flooding.
We mean shit all in the big picture but add in ND and SD an Michigan and you have some problems out their it's not all roses any more.

[Choice2U]

Grass....Very few of us have ever disputed climate change because we've seen it before ie. ice age. What we dispute is the "indisputable" evidence that burning fossil fuels is 100% of the cause, human activity is totally to blame, distributing wealth to poor countries will reverse it or even have a modest affect. The fear mongering started with "Global warming" based on a greenhouse effect hypothesis. I remember hearing that the prairies will warm up till the south becomes a wasteland. When that never really caught on because people were not convinced, "they" started calling it climate change which many of us already believed in. Still waiting for the indisputable evidence and a plan that doesn't include buying bullshit carbon credits, controls all countries and not just the developed ones, does not wreak of wealth transfer, etc. and then I may buy into the concept that "they" are doing it for the environment.

[Choice2U]

PS Grass. After the drought of the 80's, I remember them saying it'll take years to replenish the soil. I think it was around 1992 that we got 7" of rain over the July long weekend and viola, the problem was fixed. Around 1986, Lampman area got about 14" of rain in a 20 hour period. Hell, live in west central Saskatchewan in the 80's and get crop insurance 6 out of 8 years. These are memories so my year and numbers could be off slightly but they were incredible extremes as well. One off events do not make your science indisputable. I've was told in the 70's in school that we would be going through a mini ice age but I guess we are much smarter now as proven by Richard Phillips with Environment Canada who said just before FPS that the last week of June would be warmer than normal and Ontario would cool down.

[blackpowder]

Could not have said it better, Choice2.
Yesterday an uncle who was lifelong teacher now living in Ontario tried that same stuff on me. Sadly I'm just not good at verbal debate.
Grass, 1 major volcanic eruption and we'll know what sudden change is like.

This thread makes me ask "Stop worrying about new crop pricing or movement opportunities". Anyone have opinion?

[cottonpicken]

Funny how the global warming guys had to switch up the lingo to climate change. If you want to understand weather follow suspiscious observes on youtube that guy is bringing in all the cutting edge weather guys and they know what their talking un like the gore *****

[fjlip]

Exactly Choice2u, "we", could never make the massive continent sized coma spinning for days that has ruined this season on the prairies for so many of us.
The 50's,70's and 90's in this area were years of TOO WET, oh plus it FROZE a few years. Cold and wet go together, so we will see in about 60 days.

[furrowtickler]

Agree cotton

[grassfarmer]

All the indications are that human activity is helping to increase global temperatures. So if we accept that higher global temperature averages might be causing an increase in extreme weather events wouldn't it be prudent to do something to mitigate the contribution human activity is making to rising global temperatures?
We owe it to future generations to do the right thing, not the easy thing.

[blackpowder]

You see how much more reasonable you sound when you tone it down a little. People start listening again. I can agree with some of your last now grass. Just need to stop short of any wealth redistribution schemes.

[bluefargo]

I hadn't thought about climate change when I started this thread. I personally have no doubt that the billions of people on this planet are causing big problems in our atmosphere. We are using up way too much of our finite resources. The evidence is overwhelming.
Having said that I don't believe every flood; every tornado ; every weather event can be blamed on climate change.
What interests me is the wet cycle we are currently in. A huge area of the prairies has more water than anybody has ever seen. Not only in the flooded areas but elsewhere as well.

[furrowtickler]

I agree blue, but also sunspot activity gets zero regard from the climate change crowd and it has far more reaching affects than any human activity

[seabass]

We are not gonna change what the weather wants to do. Taxing us for someone elses benefit ain't gonna fix it. Weathers been changing forever. Warmest May right here my ass. In 2 years or next year it could be drier thana popcorn fart and its still our fault. Live with it deal with it and move on.