maybe its been broken for ever but was itbnot desinged for farmers

[Braveheart]

More on this family bs. I know Bill Parrish. He's one of the nicest and most honest persons you'll meet. Andrew Paterson and my personality don't jive. Hartley Richardson doesn't involve himself in the business. He leaves it to hard nosed businessman Curt Vossen. They are all in business to look after, wait for it, their business. They aren't running the jdwerks Benevolent Society.

It really comes down to paradigms. I see input suppliers and grain merchants as our partners in what we do. If we become unhappy with a partner we find a new one. If you have an us vs. them paradigm, you are setting yourself up for bitterness and jealous feelings that are destructive to business and frankly, to life.

[Hopalong]

Agree, more of us see ourselves as part of a value chain.
Many early supporters of pools saw them as answers to open market and transportation issues.
For those who continue to farm our land, hope they see can themselves as a link in a value chain rather than an adversary to other links.

[bucket]

Its supposed to be symbiotic relationship. As cotton has said kill the host and the parasites die.

You have to decide who the host is.

I know some great salesman that are nice to deal with until the problems arise.

I doubt any of the families give a shit about your farm when it comes to their business.

But keep the rose colored glasses on and tell us how the story ends. The story had been written already.

Sounds like they have one on the line and they are reeling him in...

When you talk to your "family" friends do they ask about your operation in a friendly manner or is that their way of business consulting with you - your services and info are free.

[Braveheart]

Our experience is they do in fact ask in a genuine nice way how things are going. Bottom line: if our business doesn't do well, their business doesn't do well.

[bucket]

Braveheart

So its good for your partners to make up things like a mythical fertilizer shortage and a 5 dollar basis between here and the coast.

And then because they are the nicest guys you will ever meet, because they make about 100 grand on every average sized farm, these are the guys you want to partner with.

The families are currently in the process of downloading storage costs to farmers and guys are being told they can make storage revenue in a dysfunctional market with no movement.

Hats off to your buddy bill Parrish, I would bet you even buy the cocktails.

[bucket]

Braveheart


You ever ask Parrish why as a partner, the farmer doesn't get more value for his grain.

International wheat prices are not changed too much.

How does taking more from a farmer help the farmer. I get how it helps his business.

Hook line and sinker is all I can think of.

[bucket]

And maybe ask him why the families are not trading in Winnipeg. Really curious as to his response.

[Braveheart]

P &H not a partner. They're not anywhere close to me.

I know the grain trade guys from a previous life.

[Braveheart]

The grain cos trade canola on ICE. Sure there are some back to back flat transactions. But risk is managed via ICE for most sales.

The grain cos trade hrsw on Mpls.

[bucket]

Braveheart

Holy ****, in a generic sense he knows the answer. Whether you deal with P H or not its the same.

Why do your partners invent fertilizer shortages and 5 dollar basis as an excuse to steal ?

Extortion and collusion were against the law at one time.

[Braveheart]

Bucket, are you by chance wrapped in tinfoil when you write this stuff?

[bucket]

Braveheart

If they use Mpls, convert to cdn dollars and minus the freight where is the extra basis coming from?

Considering that north Dakota basis is far less than ours, and their grain is moving, it seems we are back to the same problems. Just substitute any graincos name in place of the CWB.

Your buddy should understand that question as well.