maybe its been broken for ever but was itbnot desinged for farmers

[bucket]

Now , I am going back to the tinfoil.

[Braveheart]

Double wrap. Keep out the bad signals.

[bucket]

Ooh, righto . Good advice.

[jdwerker]

Our system was broken before the end of the monopoly and its more broken now. These wealthy "families" made up of "nice guys" who apparently let their lackies do all the dirty work without any direction is just replacing the mess we had before with an even bigger mess. And the farmers who are in bed with them have sold their souls to the highest bidders, selling the rest of us out at the same time. Vvalk and Braveheart, your definition of capitalism indicates you missed the part on free markets and skipped right to dictatorships.

[bucket]

Capitalism is the quickest route to socialism. Most don't know that. The US is a socialist state, they just haven't admitted it yet.

[bucket]

jdwerker

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Exactly right and it was a good example of wealthy inbred kids being influenced by snake oil salesmen.

As I have said before I thought getting rid of the CWB was a good idea, I just didn't realize the buffoons forgot about ensuring the process was complete.

"as lord is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.." I love that quote, too bad its so true when it comes to the change in marketing.

The guys that pushed hard to rid the cwb can't admit that the graincos are doing the same incompetent and immoral things.

I can't believe the hyprocrisy.

[Braveheart]

My Ma and Pa didn't meet at a family reunion. Wealthy? Rich beyond dreams. But not cash, property, etc. Just happy, healthy family. More or less healthy, as wife is fighting a nasty, uncurable form of cancer, but doing very well.

True wealth is far different than net worth.

The "system" isn't broken. It's just the system. There are opportunities to do well. Ignore them and choose to be bitter and jealous. Your choice. Don't blame an exchange or companies that merchandise grain, without whom you would be sitting in "Nowhereville" Canada with no way to link to customers.

[blackpowder]

Can't disagree completely with anyone here.
Should buy Alcoa shares with the rise in foil consumption.
Farmers need to stop thinking like producers only and start thinking like grain companies.

[Braveheart]

Alcoa)

Hahahaha!

[bucket]

It seems to me the cwb was the one to blame when US prices were higher than Canadian.

Why is ok to give the graincos a pass when they won't come clean on their incompetence in moving their grain?

[bucket]

Blackpowder

Good point. Now how do producers push their costs onto someone else and making up excuses to not move grain? Just thinking like a grainco.

[Hopperbin]

Bucket we have a railway problem grain co.pany problem has yet to show. Although I am thinking when futures are broken. Fix them. **** ipulled a bourgault air tank in half and fixed it better than new in just over one day. So not sure why no one listens to me when the farmers bin should be the seller end user be the other part of trade With optional speculators. Grain elevators and railroads only a deduction posted daily if availlable and cost. This will get feed barley. Hardwheat. Malt. Peas. Flax. Add any other comodity. It should work.

[Hopperbin]

Think about it. A grain price availlable on a futures that a buyer speculator or end user posts to pay just like buying a stock its not rocket science. And sellers farmers or speculators offer prices oe each can just buy or sell as the stock market works very well. With hourly posted elevator space and delivery. Maybe up to minute postings. Then farmers get export price minus deductions. Maybe more with the risk involved.

[Hopperbin]

Today japan buyer comes to x I want canadian hard wheat. Middle man says no wheat availlable but if you pay 10 bucks a bushel there is lots. Farmer gets 5 minus ded for 4. Japan guy says hayoya fukikmomo. Ficko.o.o and goes else where. Put the buyer to the farmer.

[bucket]

hopper

It would be better for us if the Japanese endusers would come to us directly, then arrange the transportatio. They wouldn't **** around to long before they bought the railway, the grainco and the boats to make the deal work.

You are right - it should be that simple.