fungicide time

[Hopperbin]

No peas on canola stubble here anymore. Been there done that. Does not work.

[saskcanfarmer]

Hopper - I'm guessing he is referring to heat damaging the peas. I disagree with him and believe farmers are looking for a reason or don't understand anphomyces. Hope I am proved wrong as this area will have a hard time growing many acres of peas if that disease gets or has as much of a foot hold as it looks like.

[saskcanfarmer]

Guess I should clarify. Heat the pre seed herbicide from BASF

[furrowtickler]

Sask can - no excuses - and I fully understand the disease - I can prove my 'theory' 100% if you want to buzz over anytime this week - it's called sprayer misses - dead or 2 1/2 foot tall perfect peas . Until you see it first hand please don't say I don't understand or looking for excuses - you know where I live I will be there from 6 am till noon the rest of the week - I will show you first hand , you will change your attitude very quickly

[riders2010]

so does spray stress bring on that disease? because two different farmers after spraying assure their peas look like they have disease and both have sprayer misses and peas are at least a foot taller and dark green in the missed areas. Is it possible surfactant stress?

[greybeard]

How much do you think fungicide can increase your yield on a crappy looking crop?
10% , 50%, 200%?
Fungus grows under a heavy canopy. Spray if that is a problem.

[furrowtickler]

Keep connecting the dots - DYODD - to all..
This is much bigger than you think and we are going to shell out $30000 to prove it in our case
As applied GPS maps and overlays will prove us right .
Again look for sprayer misses - overlap - and over app on inside corners
Sometimes it not a sprayer miss - edge of fields around sloughs , tree lines
In our case the chemistry is tied to soil type and timeing - as proven by an Austrailian Lable for the exact same chemistry in he exact same crop - it's on their label - but not in Canada - yet
Again DYODD

[saskcanfarmer]

I hope you're right. I know you will do your homework. No doubt about that. So your theory is that the herbicide damage is causing the peas to look the way they are and not the soil disease? Or the herbicide is compounding or "aiding" the disease? I will have to take a look at the Australian label.

[saskcanfarmer]

What rate were you using?

[TOM4CWB]

We have peas on both wheat and LL canola stubble

No differences
4' tall. Close by same pes on wht stubble... 1' and really ugly root rot Chem damage.

Carry over Chem?

Sprayer cleaned out right?

Rotation?

Priaxor on friday.

Viper with heat burnoff.

Folks who sprayed herbicide when it was cool (5 at night, 12/14 day) really cooked their peas.

Must wait 3 days after cool weather or the pea can't metabolites the herbicide.

Tough year to get timing right.

Never a dull moment!!!

Cheers

[sumdumguy]

Do you remember Spray Air sprayers? When we had one, we believed that fungicide does a better job by the increased air pressure of the air forcing the chemical under tha canopy and onto the lentil stems. Peas should not be much different. Do you think that todays ground sprayers achieve that?

[SASKFARMER3]

Most farmers don't understand fungicides. The article in the WEstern producer explains that.
The attitude put it on it works and don't check is out their big time.
Most fungicide heads to Alberta and West sask. Their warehouses are full. Talk to any one in the chem industry. Then their are shortages in the east because the West has all the chemicals. In reality unless your in a rainfall area like ours where its is 250% above average your wasting your money.
Yes all our wheat is hit at flag with a fungicide even in a shit year like this. But if the weather stays the same as forecast for the next 10 days Putting on Canola is a waste of time.
For HRS coming back to help with fusarium also is a waste now. Boys were in the middle of July count the days down, Sorry to tell you time is running out of the hour glass very fast on this crop.
Delaying a crop maybe isn't the best option in 2014.

[furrowtickler]

We had no Viper "flashing" at all - sprayed at least 5 days from that cool night, 2 here
The damage is from the pre burn - as evident from the misses at pre burn time that were sprayed with viper later and the peas are perfect is those areas.
Again when you see it first hand it is stunning.
On one half north of the yard I had a nozzle not working on my out side round at pre burn . Perfect green strip of peas.

[sumdumguy]

No burn-off on garden peas and all are capoot. I thought Round up is neutralized by the soil did I get your drift. No pun intended.

[mbdog]

fungicide usually no brainer...on complete crop. Will help good parts but too much lost. Go fishing. Its a crop insurance year.