Ritz just told all us flooded farmers to F&@k Off!

[TOM4CWB]

ado,

Called Agri Invest. matched funds.

Crop Ins is meant to average out things... as is hail ins. Use it for what it is meant for... not for profit...but to average income out.

[farmaholic]

When things are, or appear to be(because of denial), so good in some peoples Utopia, apathy of fellow mans burdens and plights can set in. Release the lions...

[bucket]

The fields in IOWA are tiled to a river system. Iowa is about a quarter the size of Saskatchewan and grows a shitload more grain than Alberta and Saskatchewan combined.

They are also home to some blue chip companies that are agriculture based.

The small towns are peppered with machine shops that do piece work for John Deere and Case. The rural communities are thriving because they give a shit about agriculture in the states - its a money maker.

Canada hasn't realized it, and never will.

The quad cities in iowa/illinois have deere and case.

Clinton Iowa has ADM. Camanche Iowa that is smaller than belle plaine sk has a pipe mill once owned by IPSCO. All within about 40 miles and there are many more. And in between there are probably 20 machine/welding shops. And on the drive you will find one of the largest transportation systems in the world - the MISSISSIPPI.

[bgmb]

I don't think the government should make any special payments for the "flooding" crop insurance and agristability to a lesser extent should keep people with sound finances in the game.

What bothers me with agristability is how Ritz screwed with the margin calculations and now guys who have low costs relative to their income are screwed over when a big disaster does hit because their cost structure is different. Basically the best margins got cut down and that's not the way a program like that should work.

[bgmb]

By the way hobby it's got nothing to do with big or small I bet

[bucket]

The problem with the programs is they take to long to get the money.

Agristability won't cut in until after the taxes are done in JUne 2015 for the 2014 year. Try telling your supplier to wait that long when you want to put in the 2015 crop.

[hobbyfrmr]

With such little government cash support, I suspect we are going to have a few more broke super farmers this year.

[ado089]

Tom sometimes I think your just ****ing with people. If the government is actually matching crop insurance premiums like they say they do, what harm would it be to have producers be able to elect to have those funds assigned to an approved 3rd party risk management device? AgriInvest...that's a good one.

[saskcanfarmer]

Imagine farming in Ukraine is like saying imagine farming with a horse and plow. Comments like that are not relevant in a discussion like this whatsoever. We aren't in Ukraine. We can't grow crops like Iowa. It's that simple. Are you blinded by ideology to see how important farming is in the praries? How important it is to the economy? If there's no money everyone suffers not just farmers.

[bucket]

If ukraine ever gets their shit together, which some won't allow to happen, TOM doesn't have enough to live the bleak outlook Canada's agriculture and economy would have, if the Ukraine and Russia decided to lay the boots on us - agriculturally.

TOM may be able to put what he doesn't know on the head of a pin, but there is room for what he does know as well.