HRS and why we dont need new seed rules!

[SASKFARMER3]

Just finished a crop tour and had a few wobbly pop with fellow farmers. Plus sitting at lake with farmers on weekend and just talking about hrs with fellow farmers.
Some one didn't get the memo because not one single guy thinks changing the seed rules is good for agriculture in Canada.
Every one figures it will cause our costs to sky rocket like Canola. We will have varieties that don't give us any more yield but cost our farms thousands of dollars from a already tight margin farm.
Funny thing is technology in farming practices is giving us greater yield. Take our 5603 variety that we seed. We hit it with more N now than we used to 30 years ago. We also feed it a full line of nutrients that match soil tests.
We give it better seed treatments and herbicides that don't set the crop back. We give it fungicides with herbicides and then fungicides at flag and heading. Basically we baby sit it all year. This year most HRS crops look good. Flooded fields aside. So why do I think their is no way we can increase yield by paying for new varieties that might be coming.
WE LIVE IN A SHORT SEASON CLIMATE> 90 to 110 Days with Monsoon from May long till July then Sweltering heat.
Simply paying 70 an acre like canola for seed will take a crop that western Canada can grow and eat the last profitable crop we have left.
Canola all agree is getting out of hand because the varieties have no given us huge yields compared to what we use to have. Some newbies will disagree but that's the fact.

[wmoebis]

Not sure if we need higher yielding wheat anyways.

Just checked prices in your jeans at Swift Current for Sept del.

Cwrs= $4.76
Higher yielding Cpsr= $2.94
Get this CWfeed= $3.52

Doesn't look like the market wants it.

[SASKFARMER3]

Every one did agree that farmers selling brown bag seed to other farmers should be stopped. That is one I agree with also.
But I can see out HRS Barley and Oats costing like Canola and no real increase in yield etc. Just a extra cost to every single one of our farms.

[SASKFARMER3]

I just find it funny how farmers can see where this is going to go yet they push ahead. Wonder who the powers that be really work for.

[sawfly]

you don't need to wonder who they work for.
i think it is getting very clear
who we are working for

[ajl]

New seed rules were designed to transfer money from farm operators to the inputs industry. Ottawa doesn't crawl with lobbyist for nothing. Not to say there could not be a better system then the current one but you will not get there in the current era of crony capitalism.

[farmaholic]

If these were biblical times, it would be obvious that Ritz and his Disciples would be working for the Romans.

Primary Producers don't need anymore "help" from Judas....

[perfecho]

Why would you restrict trade of see amongst farmers?
This falls into the plans of those you are opposed to....choices....if you want to spend $400 to get a $400 crop, go for it. If some one can pencil out using their own seed, why not?
Half summer fallow would be the quickest, most efficient fix for the pricing problem, but it ain't gonna happen!

[gustgd]

For those that want to keep farmer breeding 100% farmer owned. That's possible. How much do you want to pay? And how do you want to pay it?
Want to alow free riders or own the company and sell to licencees.

Lots of ways to skin a cat, calling people names yet not offering solutions is not one of them.

[BreadWinner]

Why is the status quo not working? If companies weren't making money why are the chemical companies still in the breeding business? Is the farmer giving up power a good thing? Do we want a consumer driven market or a corporate driven market? Don't people remember when GMO canola came out how the canola tanked?
If you ask a seed salesman these questions you will get a different response than asking a farmer.
I am concerned about having no control over seed prices and no control over lost markets due to the companies telling the consumer what is best.
Does any of this really matter because it sound like this is already a done deal?

[farmaholic]

I voted for them but didn't think my "small" business would be placed as far behind corporate business as it was, of which whom are large enough to take care of themselves and shouldn't need government legislation to aid them in taking more from an already powerless group.

[blackpowder]

Here goes..
I truly believe in spending money on research and development for our industry.
We do not have to give up control, but you will need consensus on how to pay for it.