HRS and why we dont need new seed rules!

[Braveheart]

Grassfarmer, crony Capitalist Cororate buddies? Hahaha. So if it was the Libs or NDP in power, who would the cronies be? Suzuki, unions, RBC (major Lib contributors),?

I'll take the job creators, the companies that make major donations to charities, the companies that are a major part of the economy as my cronies any day.

[gustgd]

Grass farmer. I just take direction from those in the public with cheques. If the grass farmer back to the farm research coop wants to invest in breeding and gift that to farmers.
I'll go for that

As it is no one is lining up to gift anything. If farmers want to get involved in public breeding an I think they do. They have to get ready to pay more.
All I'm saying.

Cotton I guess that's unlikely to happen unless customers demand it. IP systems are expensive and someone has to pay for added expense.
IMO there will always be room for bulk commodities. Do you want to be in that business?

[grassfarmer]

Braveheart always playing the old "would be worse with socialists" bogeyman.
Truth is the worst excesses of extreme right are just about the same as extreme left.

[TOM4CWB]

Just in case you care:

It is against the law for any company to donate any money to any federal political party in Canada.

Individual donations only from people are allowed.

[Braveheart]

Grassfarmer, it's true. I was raising the spectre of Socialist boogeyman.

You're dead on about extremists. Extreme conservatives, extreme liberals, communists, Muslims, especially extreme Christians, definitely extreme *******.

Extremely hot babes excluded of course!

The current federal govt is made up of some extreme Conservatives, and some extreme Christians. Far from perfect, they're people after all. But Stephen Harper, for me, is the best mis of a social and fiscal conservative.

[Braveheart]

Tom, I do care to know that. Thanks. It must be a recent change as RBC used to support previous Liberal efforts.

[TOM4CWB]

Braveheart,

The reason the Liberal party is out in the cold politically... is that the Conservative Party of Canada moved into the centre of the political spectrum where the Liberals used to reside. Now the NDP are more Conservative than the Liberals... which has led to Justin being elected.

Labels politically are basically useless... as the landscape has moved so much!

[Braveheart]

I agree Tom. The political landscape shifts so that it must be built on sand. Yikes!

[Braveheart]

Back to seed. Curious. If the "sky is about too fall" people were right about farm saved or farmer to farmer sales, how would anyone know? Will there be seed police?

[bucket]

gust

My question about who pays when the market gets screwed up is valid.

In the syngenta case in point, they sold the seed to farmers to grow, it was the trait that the chinese banned.

Good or bad, scientific or not, should syngenta not be held to account on this???

And not to go back to the triffid ache for long. It was never commercially available and if it was, I think they made an effort to round it all up back in the early 2000s - who should be held account for that mess.

These are valid questions that should be answered by someone prior to changing the rules. Maybe a little due diligence.

[bgmb]

I agree Cotton, that is the way the line companies would like to see it go they have locked up delivery of grain and control of the inputs. Thats why I dont grow IP, put the grain in the bin and then shop for the best deal.

[Braveheart]

Sometimes there's value in IP. We've done well with Nexera. We don't take Warburton because we don't see enough value.

I want to be in the paradigm where I see the rest of industry as our partner. When we look at the rest of the industry that way they start looking back the same way.

Rather than getting a bigger piece of the pie, we want the pie bigger so all our pieces are bigger.