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    #21
    A little defensive there skj, am i not entitled to my opinion? Maybe your from the taliban, if my opinion isn't the same as yours, then i'm wrong. lol. Yes 25 combines is very impressive sask. and i only read enough of bto to make an informed opinion.

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      #22
      So what happens when they want to sell those machines for new ones?

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        #23
        The dealer is hoping no praying us minions pick up the pace and take their shit and the ponzi scheme continues. Or we farmers do jack shit and the dealers begin to feel the pain. Time will tell.

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          #24
          Or the Dealers/Manufacturers have enough built in margin that the "gently used iron" can be sloughed off at Ritche Bros.(especially when there are brand name changes) and the cycle continues. Actually the chickens will be coming home to roost on that program. Market saturation.

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            #25
            I'm hoping the price of bigger used machinery will come down like it has on used straight-cut headers. dealers are having trouble moving all the 1and2 year old combines they're taking in on trade, especially the ones from some bigger farmers that drive the shit out of them and do very little maintenance. most farmers know who looks after machinery and who doesn't.

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              #26
              What an interesting concept: "If all farmers would refuse to buy used hutterite equipment, the dealers wouldnt be so eager to sell them new machinery at discounted prices."

              And the average farmer would be ahead how?

              Wouldn't a smarter plan be for farmers to recognize the power of collective bargaining, organize your own machinery purchases in a similar manner and thus all get the deal the Hutterites are getting now?

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                #27
                You mean if we had a giant brokerage firm with exisiting infrastructure and people maybe called the cwb canadian western brokerage wow good idea

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                  #28
                  When we shopped for a 4 year old combine, purposely looked for a single unit smaller farmer trade. Think it's better maintained, driven by owner / wife/ kids.
                  Jay Dee salesman's comment was that ALL Hutterite trades go to Ritchie's. They are "USED" up, too many hard drivers, lots of hours/acres, too much resale risk. So let's NOT shop at Ritchie's either.

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                    #29
                    Good point fjlip, could you imagine half a dozen testosterone driven young males all vying for the bragging rights for being the fastest combine operator? Yikes!!

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                      #30
                      Have to agree with suggestion in opening post that farmers are becoming more business oriented.
                      At one time, tried to support concepts of collective or co-operative bargaining by dealing with pools and other co-ops.
                      Have come to conclusion it was mostly wasted effort.
                      Think any renewed efforts would be even less likely to be supported by more business oriented operations in the future.

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