Here we go again with Bull shit! Fertilizer going up friday BUY BUY BUY!

[SASKFARMER3]

Here is the reality of the situation the American farmer is going to seed Soy next year unless corn can pull a surprise out of its ass by next spring.

Shift to Soybeans from Corn Could Continue
The shift of US acreage from corn to soybeans begun this spring could continue for another year, according to Farm Futures Magazine's first survey of 2015 planting intentions. But changes could be less dramatic as prices for both crops fall below the cost of production.
Growers told Farm Futures they're planning 86.6 million acres of soybeans next spring, a 2.1% increase over the 84.8 million planted in 2014. While that would be another new record, the increase would be less than the 10.9% hike seen this year.
At the same time, farmers said they expect to cut back corn seedings again next year. The Farm Futures survey found initial planting intentions of 90.5 million acres, down 1.2% from the 91.6 million believed to be planted this year.

Yesterday got the phone call have to buy because their is no time like today. The price is increasing and you have to buy. BLAH BLAH BLAH!
FMJ were not even harvesting and their trying the same BS again.
Not doing it No Fricking way.
Said price was $470.00
Well if you can do it for $400.00 for 46 you got my business at this time of year if you cant do SFA then don't call.
CLICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on farmers don't fall for this shit.
Prices we get are in the tank they have product that's in their warehouses, let them sweat.

[HFL]

We've been checking prices this week and best we can find is 490 for 46-00. They all have the same story. Prices going no where but up. And, it's time to book your Canola seed for next year too. We said with Canola at less than 9 bucks in the elevator we don't need any seed.

[SASKFARMER3]

Oh yea got the Canola phone call and was told hurry hurry the best varieties will be gone.
Said that's Ok since the Best are going to yield the same this year as the shitty. I'm going to eventually just take what ever shit is left. Canola at 9 is a no brainer its a over priced crop to grow for shit all price. I don't care if its tied to Soy.
Funny the same story happens every year.
Just wish for once farmers would wake up and tell these idiots to go F$%k them selves.

We waited till Xmas last year and paid same as the Eager Beavers for Ammonia and 46 and 11 and Sulfur.
I'm in no hurry.

[farmaholic]

Also, with the "anticipation" of an increase in soy acres, expect canola prices to drop. Based on nothing but "intensions". Too funny, too stupid. But that is the kind of news the "Market" uses to manipulate prices. I'm not saying its going to happen but that is the logic tbey use. Here we go again, someone else counting our chickens before they hatch.....

[farmaholic]

SF3, isn't "jently" spelled with a G. If I'm reading FMJ correctly? Just trying to help. Is it what I think it is?

Comment on my own comment.... effin eggs haven't even been laid, and they're counting....LOL

[Klause]

No one's buying this year so they want to use scare tactics...



Agreed. Prices will drop unless grain goes up a lot in a hurry

[Hopalong]

Rather a fine line between markets 'manipulating' prices and 'establishing' prices.
Still a better way to induce and control production of most commodities than a planned or command economy.

[Rareearth]

A good comment on corn and soybean acres for next year. This translates into less fertilizer demand. Corn uses a lot of fertilizer, no corn = no need for fertilizer as the alternative is soybeans( legume that needs NO fertilizer).

Since they are still waiting to harvest it is too early for this to impact the market yet. This psychology is be world wide, so there will be less demand world wide for N, should translate into no capacity constrains or issues with manufacturing until a few of them blow up.

[boarderbloke]

I think you have it Rareearth, "they'll blowup" or more likely be mothballed for awhile. This is something farmers can't grasp, cutting production volumes to maintain prices at profitable levels. If farmers across the major producing areas ever discovered this, they'ed find that they wouldn't have to replace their equipment so often, and they'ed have more time with their families. What would happen if all major areas rested 10 percent of the land via clover, grass or alfalfa for various lengths as part of the rotation.

[bucket]

Don't forget that fertilizer shortage this spring came to a quick end when the railways in the states were told to move it .

[SASKFARMER3]

Farmers they called wolf last spring on no product! It was bull shit now here we go again! God we either are the most stupid group of consumers or what'
Yea it's F$&k me gently! Sorry!
Point being they think were idiots and are trying to use scare tactics!
It's simple I paid below .45 for amonia this year done at Christmas. So with shit all corn going in next year sorry it's .38 to .42 and I might bite! Otherwise bite me!

[Hopalong]

Something drummed into our heads for decades is to know our costs of production.
Not very complementary towards our intelligence to think we are only capable of production.

[farmaholic]

Knowing your cost of production is a good place to start, but once all the monies spent it really doesn't matter because in a sense there is very little you can do after the fact if Mother Nature doesn't co-operate. Sometimes you just know you're at a loss, peas on our farm would be a good example this year.

[Daylate]

I agree, urea should be closer to $400 /tonne now or it might pay to wait till spring.

[farmaholic]

It goes from COP control to COP recovery and how much control do you have over that???? Sometimes you're the pigeon and sometimes you're the statue.....