if saturday does not get us

[freewheat]

I think Klause has.

[agchat]

Wont argue about barley, never did like to swath that stuff. Sprouts away to easy.

[Klause]

We use Ethrel.


Manipulator or whatever they call it is snake oil. Doesn't do anything.


Ethrel shortens straw. Strengthens the spikelets and eliminates lodging.


You have to be so careful with staging though.

we couldn't get to the wheat on time but did do the oats. Everyone else's is flat ours stands great

[sumdumguy]

Interesting, this year would have been the year to do some trials. With all this moisture, there is plenty of straw. Klause, can you comment on yield ?

[freewheat]

Another few straight cut benefits: I cut my stubble WAY higher than if I swathed. I do not need a heavy harrow, because less material through the combine means a better spread/less down straw to seed into the following year. We all know the standing stubble does not cause the issue that the horizontal straw does. I have seeded into 18 inch stubble with my old 12 inch space modified air seeder. Not a problem.... I also burn less fuel, and travel much faster while combining than if I swathed. No swather costs. Fuel, parts, time, capital costs. A few cost savings there as well.

Just thought about these things...

[Partners]

Taller stubble catches more snow...We do not need the added moisture in this area...We cut wht. at 6 inches..combine chops it to zip..seed in to blacker soil..grows faster in the colder temps...

[freewheat]

I agree, Partners with the snow catch issue. I am less sure about soil temp gains, after comparing my canola to others in the area this year. A spring frost and it would be much more susceptible no doubt. Take the good with the bad, huh? No question about that. Hey, what wheat did you grow this year again? Vesper? Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!!! I tried Shaw, it looks good, but is very late.

[Klause]

We have used Ethrel for 3 years now. 5 to 7 bu increase in unity hrs.


Oats didn't leave check strip... Ours stands that's all I care about


straw length in unity goes from chest to just under waist high.

Oats moreso. Our Souris isn't much above knee high...

[Partners]

Utmost..(anything but Secan)The 40 acres we have combined went 49 b/a after we dried it..
We have a test strip of 90 acres of canola where we burnt the wheat straw this spring..Side by side, same field..The burnt , black field looks way better..will weigh at combine time to varify any diff...

[Hopperbin]

Klause your etherel does not show yield increase from the road. Why the **** on a semi drarf use something to kick the shit out of it. Like farming around wet spots 6 inches high with grainin it. What the **** kick it with etherel. Your oats is not as good as neighbours. His is half flat with awesome yummy oat seeds.