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    #11
    SF3 . . markets work, it's our greed that gets in the way

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      #12
      Strange inputs are not in free fall!

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        #13
        Why would input prices fall? Having said, I would watch nitrogen prices. This is likely a farmers biggest input expense for most crops and the most commodity like.

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          #14
          Charlie why not! The boom is over! Oh stupid farmers have to grow a crop they just have to so the game can continue!
          Why spend on a crop to fill the world with more shit no one wants and all the perisites get fed!
          FU$& them! Sorry it's all bull shit! Why grow or try for a 60 to loose more money on shit no one wants!
          The boom was bull shit and so is this dive! Let the big boys starve! Oh but if we keep telling stupid farmers to over produce we keep the ponzy scheme going!
          Watch shortages in Fert seed chem buy buy buy!
          Keep the farmer broke the ponzy keeps going and were hooked!

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            #15
            Unless someone has a gun to your head, it is farmers purchase decisons that keep input prices up. I assume farmers find value in the inputs they purchase at the price paid or you won't do it. To be blunt, its hard to negotiate for a lower price when you have a credit card in your hand ready to pay.

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              #16
              It has been a tough year.

              If I looked at the following three factors, which one has had more impact on bottom line.

              Input prices.

              Declining crop prices.

              Production challenges (yield and quality).

              Fixed asset decions and financing (land rent, machinery purchases, etc).

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                #17
                Production issues! Tough to fill good contracts if your given shit weather! Best plans are thrown out the window! Paying to get out of contracts that you can't fill is rough! Price is relevant! Made money in shit years but costs were way lower!
                Simply if stupid farmers keep feeding the perisites they survive! why shoot for a 60 bpa if no one wants the shit!

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                  #18
                  How about a screwed transport system that distorts prices, not on your list. How do producers control that?

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                    #19
                    Agree our transport system last winter let grain companies screw farmers and no one complained!

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                      #20
                      I sure get called stupid a lot by poeple with fake names. Ebrandon poeple called me stupid lots but I've been banned from there, maybe I should be banned from here , braveheart u got any extra anti- depressants.

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