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    Is it the machine or the operator?

    As we putt putt putt up and down the field with our baby caseih 1644 combine at a average speed of two mile an hour straight cutting wheat, it gets frustrating watching the big machines in the next field roaring up and down. That is till this year, when as we putt putt putt up and down the field, the neighbor did about half hour combining, the rest getting stuck. One machine four hours to yank it out. yes a total of half hour combining with two machines for them on wednesday. Now i wonder are these big combines to dam heavy or are the operators to dam brave or dumb? Now I probably just jinxed myself for bragging.

    #2
    I think I would of left out the dumb comment. What are the chances that he doesn't read this forum. There are only do many 1644 out there combining beside someone who spent most of the day stuck. Hope you don't need a hand someday.lol

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      #3
      I think guys running the big machines don't develop the seat of the pants feeling for when you're getting in trouble. They have so much power it's just push the hydro lever all the way ahead and hang on. With an older smaller machine you're paying attention waiting for the next wreck whether it's mechanical or field conditions. (at least I know I always feel like I'm operating a hand grenade without a pin and it's just a matter of time until it blows LOL)

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        #4
        Myself, I gotta get stuck at least once or twice to learn.
        Four words that make the most money for shops.
        "F**k yeah, it'll go!

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          #5
          I agree with Ronski on the smaller machines, but just remember the race is long, and in the end it is with yourself. You really don't want to know what's cooking in the neighbours pot.
          You may get a chuckle from their fiasco but You really don't want those guys across the fence to get hurt. Help them if they ask.

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            #6
            Wait a second here, I never said anything about getting a chuckle out of it. Felt sorry as hell for the guy. He is my neighbor, and a friend.

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              #7
              Ya always hoping neighbors stuff keeps running and everyone stays healthy. Really don't want to keep harvesting forever. I think we are ALL tired and less sharp. Bad decisions have dire consequences, even if it's just lost time.

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                #8
                I know what your saying agchat. We use to run older smaller machines with less hp and didnt seem to have all the stuck issues til we got the newer, heavier more hp units. Definitely makes u braver not necessarily stupider.

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                  #9
                  I've taken some chances this fall I probably shouldn't have. Worked.out but if would have got stuck it would have been "MY" fault.

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                    #10
                    Agchat, I have one of those operators who hasn't learned yet, but is learning to leave the low crap. If it never gets jarvested, who cares? They lose a lot of time pushes that lever like Natzis. Slow and steady should win the race. Oh well, who am I to talk?

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                      #11
                      Doubt the tred print has kept up to the weight of the machines over the years

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                        #12
                        Gotta admit straight cutting has more challenges in wet. As in getting stuck. Got a new 20 yr old would possibly have swamped it with a straight header today for where he drove. Got another 20 yr old two days before got high clearance sprayer stuck ina washout. Should never have that inclination to drive straight through. Washout was full of water he went slow put one front tire in and front of 3320 was on the ground. So I pull up with 535 hp of tractor around front cause never pulled sprayer out backward before he flagging me go behind. Ok this one needed backing out. Oh so glad no one gets hurt sometimes.

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                          #13
                          If we all make it through with no tragedy this year, we better have an Agriville party.not a bad idea, eh?

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                            #14
                            This thread reminds me of the old joke expect all have heard.
                            Texan bragging that it took him all day to drive around his spread in his half ton.
                            To which his listener responded "I used to have a truck like that too".

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                              #15
                              I'll agree with Hopper... straight cut heads are heavier out front.

                              Sank one wheel of the combine, dumped the hopper, dropped head right to ground and walked out of it.



                              I'm kinda glad I don't have those two kids working for us, Hopper.

                              Someone gets our Willmar stuck in the front end I'd have words and they would be interesting.

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