Cold soaker...cold comfort

[Braveheart]

A few points:

As long as I have the freedom to do what I want, I have a better chance of success.

I don't want to be forced to cooperate with anyone, farmers included. Good riddance CWB monopoly.

Zero till continues to work well for us. All our neighbours are working black. Their decision. Their land. Not for long. They keep tillin we'll own them eventually.

[CptnObvious]

Success does not necessarily follow freedom. You have made an assertion, not proved a point or stated a fact. You and people like you have cost western Canadian agriculture billions. You have made me work harder for less money.

[Braveheart]

My assertion becomes my fact. It's not my fault you feel inept. Accept personal responsibility.

[farmaholic]

ooh-oh....

[Braveheart]

Ooh-oh what? More like hahaha.

I was bored. It's raining.

Now that I've caused trouble I'm going practicing target shooting.

[blackpowder]

My feed wheat today is worth $3.23/bu.
In 2005 it was worth $2 & No2 was worth $4.00.
For hundreds of reasons you can't bury the past deep enough. Anyone who believes we'd have been better off this last year with the old system is most definitely Oblivious!

[sumdumguy]

Braveheart, I made a hell of a lot of money with the lowly discer. seed, weed and feed in one operation! I grew 85 bushel Glenlea, 50 bushel Canaryseed, 40 bushel Eston Lentils, with just plain old N and P, no disease. From what I see today, this method appears to be growing so-so crops but disease is harboured in the excess trash. That's just my opinion, so Braveheart, what may seem obvious to you today, may not be tomorrow. I'll talk to you in 20 years.

[chuckChuck]

Canpotex, OPEC, Dairy farmers of Canada, various labour Unions, Federated Coops, to name just a few exmaples of organizations that find benefits in a cooperative approach.

Farmers like to portray them selves as independent but are totally dependent on other businesses that have more bargaining power.

Walmart is a good example. Would individual Walmart stores have more buying power than Walmart the Multinational Corporation? I think the answer is obvious.

[Braveheart]

Sumdumguy, I'll be retired, will be happy to talk. My son will be here doing what works for him.

I've used a discer. In the 80s it moved too much soil. Anyone using one here then had their fields blow away. In the RR Valley, the tillage erosion from the discer left a hollow in the center of the field eventually.

We have lots of trash. Managed residue. We manage disease. Rotation, fungicides, forages, whatever it takes.

It's like the grain marketing Captain Oblivious is whining about. You be active in your management. Sometimes it works better than others. You learn and move on.

If you you're not going to enjoy the journey don't start the trip.

[Braveheart]

Dairy farmers? The ultimate Capitalist venture. Let's see, you can't participate unless you have oodles of capital. They have control of production. They eliminated the competition from anywhere.

[Braveheart]

Federated co-op, voluntary.

Unions, enemy of farmers everywhere (National Farmers variety especially).

OPEC, nukes needed.

Canpotex? Did the Chinese buy them?

[Hopalong]

Has been wettest five years here since before European settlement 130 years ago.
Think it is natural variation, still betting dry years and drought will return but each wet year makes us less willing to bet on it.
Having seen soil degradation from excess tillage, both here and other places, would be very reluctant to go back.
Think organic producers who advocate tillage do a disservice to mankind.