Grading, protein, falling numbers

[bucket]

Farmaholic


Sadly you are right.

I was getting excited about putting ideas forward to the cwb about how to make a user friendly elevator at their state of the art projects.

Instead I was met with a guy telling me has 30 years in the elevator industry.

Single lane white elephants.

OK then. Also asked for condo space . Nope. Cheaper for farmers to build on farm.

WTF farmers are paying for the condo space.

It doesn't have to linked to elevator. It could be a series of bins with separate facility. I could have hauled grain to a condo point when it was too tough to combine. Then when they were shipping I could go and shuttle grain into elevator.

[bucket]

Jd green

They pay on protein what unloads not what your tester says.

I have had grain out of one bin test 11 to 15 protein when hauling. Probes are a retarded way of testing loads. It's a teaspoon out of a super b . Good for some things I won't mention here.

I noticed the comments in the western producer as well.

[farmaholic]

JD... it's simply a head ****/game. Now you think you've been done a favor. The weak may accept something lower than you agreed to based on "good representative bin samples" before delivery.

I've been told not to worry about what the graders are doing on the driveway, the "office" will make the adjustments. Why bother grading then? It's all a game... it's likely the grader's job to get it as low as is reasonably possible and the office staff know that. The sad part is they look more and more incompetent as producers get more and more aware and sophisticated. Some will be taken...

[Braveheart]

Testing for protein is an inexact science. The same bin will test different on different days.

If most posters on here are this distrustful of their grain handlers, or suppliers, they either need to take a good look at themselves or get a different career.

This doesn't mean you don't pay attention to your products or protect your property's value. But, if you don't trust the people you partner with to move your product to end users you have big problems.

[farmaholic]

Braveheart: if you're insinuating those that don't trust can't be trusted you are oh so wrong when it comes to me. My frustration is I think everyone runs on the same set of morals and beliefs as me and I get pissed when I get ****ed over. NO, I don't trust them..... end of story!!!

[SASKFARMER3]

I priced a foston or foster years ago same as the elevators have from Texas. It was $34,000.00 ah decided to use theirs.

[Braveheart]

So every day you haul grain to town, you're anxious, uptight, blood pressure up?

If that's the case then I'm not insinuating, I'm stating, you have a problem.

[bucket]

Braveheart

I hope your comments are not pointed at me.

I watch them test my grain and once it's in the machine I rub it like a slot machine for better results.

What else can you do. 3 different results just means it's all a crap shoot.

I don't know where .1 increments came from. They don't sell grain like that or bin it that way either.

[farmaholic]

cause and effect....

[farmaholic]

...but the problem isn't that I can't be trusted...

[Braveheart]

My comments are general.

Know what you have. If experienced, you can get a pretty good handle on grade. Protein WILL vary month to month, machine to machine. It's just the way it is. WATCH your sample tested. It's your right. If you disagree get a third (official) grade.

But, distrusting everyone out there is just going to leave you personally hollow and set up up as an individual businesses would really rather not see.

We have an individual in our community who has this reputation and he is now running out of anyone to do business with. Machine dealers don't want him. Elevators cringe when he comes in. A landlord wouldn't allow him to use bins in a yard and he had to pile grain in the field. He's putting himself out of business.

[Hopalong]

Have my own complaints and stories about being hard done by the system.
Have also done some questionable things (when I was younger) in dealing with grain companies.
Looking for solutions, don't think farmer ownership or government regulation is the answer.
Owning and using our own testing equipment would help when practical, just as moisture testing has changed from days when we had to go to elevator.
Suggest that farms of the future will continue to become more business oriented and supportive of industry type associations.