Grading, protein, falling numbers

[Braveheart]

Dakota Growers is rejecting more loads than they accept. Damage from vomi. Truck after truck turned back.

For those wondering about arbitrage, you have to make it happen with your truck, or whatever. Hanging out on AgriVille fresh back from the Co-op coffee bar whining "I told you so" won't do it.

Farmaholic, changing partners? Do you have a truck? Rubber does more these days than prevent pregnancies.

[bucket]

Braveheart

Nope that's not the way it's supposed to work.

They might as well left the cwb in place. And legislated free permits to haul grain across.

It's the same ****ing distance from minot to the pnw as Weyburn to Vancouver. Driving grain to minot to get a higher price is Idiotic.

[Braveheart]

I'll drive if that's what it takes. I'd rather be an "overcomer".

But really, that is how it's supposed to work. The market force of a higher price should pull product to where it's needed n'est pas?

Re durum, Mid ND plants are short of quality. Just like oat millers were short of product this spring. Spot cash values are hot. Haven't heard $22.00, but did have a US friend offered $13.00 FOB Carrington, but his trucks were sent home cause vomi.

So, think about it. Mid continent high spot cash. Now everyone thinks arbitrage "magically" makes that the western CA durum price with freight adjusted. It could be your price if you met the specs and fired up the semi though.

[bucket]

If there is a market for durum. Why wouldn't viterra moose jaw load up with good quality durum at 12 bucks and rail it to north dakota. Reduce the truck traffic. Pull the grain and move it more efficiently.

Why do something logically. ?

[Braveheart]

You said rail? Hahahaha. Oh that's funny. Rail to port is bad enough but rail to ND? Hahaha.

Finding the product and risk of rejection after a long truck ride might dissuade most grain cos. But I don't know.

[bucket]

Most mills are only 25 to 50 car spots why wouldn't they want to coordinate the business.

If the QA is done it shouldn't be a problem.

IF it is we have a serious transportation problem.

[checking]

Braveheart.

Is vomi testing an inexact science like protein testing?

Surely you suggested to your US friend that he test, or his delivery point test his durum before he wasted his time trucking in loads to be rejected.

[farmaholic]

Is their "vomi test" a pick it and count it or an actual lab test to determine the percentage of vomitoxin kernels. A true lab test would likely take what 3 days? Sounds like another "subjective" grading job at work here.....

[Braveheart]

Subjective or not, they are the buyers.

They make pasta for a consumer that expects a level of quality and definitely food safety. Should it be any other way than they be subjective?

[farmaholic]

Objective, If you can't measure it without human influence it shouldn't count. What's wrong with measurable specs: protein, moisture, falling numbers, lab vomitoxin tests, bushel weights? The rest, visual and handpicking are subjective excuses to muddy the real numbers. JD's experience in the other thread is insane.

Ergot is an exception, very straight forward.