Interesting experiment

[farmaholic]

Take a step back and look at some of the comments (mine included). We are slamming each other while the ****ers continue their bullshit games. No wonder they have us where they want us, we couldn't agree and unite if someone invaded us and was about to take our land and exile us. ****ing pathetic......

I don't see any one of you as my adversary. Yet we treat each other with disdain

[bucket]

Shit I always get a warm feeling being here.

My language is an impediment. But mostly you come to a consensus. Eventually.

[Braveheart]

caseih, apparently they have more sound wheat in the northern US tier than expected so bids for high px wheat has dropped a fair bit in Mpls.

There is a farm beside me hauling there every week, but they really need a back haul to make it feasible. They are bringing back 18-46-0 and urea but that business is drying up.

They are .5 km from the US border and about 10 hours to destination.

[JDGreen]

Growers look at buying falling-number machines
BY LOUISE McBRIDE Thu, Dec 30 2010


GRAINGROWERS involved with Viterra's Cowell silo committee are considering buying and implementing their own falling-number machine tests at their local site, at a cost of $40,000.
More than 40 local growers attended a meeting at Cowell on Friday, where they called for the immediate installation of a falling-number machine at all sites. Four Viterra representatives present argued visual assessment was more efficient, faster and enabled trucks to get processed quicker.
Cowell farmer Allan Zerna, secretary of the Cowell silo committee, said "inadequate" visual assessment of grain meant results were not correlating with falling-number machine assessment.
"In many cases, grain assessed by Viterra staff as sprouted and put in feed categories have been retested by machines and come back as Australian Premium White and Australian General Purpose," Mr Zerna said.
"There is a fine, subjective line between what is sprouted and where it goes. Looking all day at grain is mind-numbing work."
A Viterra spokesperson said following widespread rain across South Australia, the company had implemented a classification strategy that was designed to maintain quality standards while at the same time maximising throughput of grain.
"Viterra recognises that this is an issue that is generating debate within the grower community and we are doing everything we can to responsibly manage a difficult situation, which is statewide, in a year of record grain receivals," the spokesperson said.
"The process involves classifying wheat based on visual assessments supported by a falling-number test every 1000t, or more frequently. Visual limits are accurately set based on the correlation between visual assessments and the falling-number test results.
"These visual limits are monitored progressively and updated based on the ongoing falling-number tests to ensure there is an accurate correlation between visual assessments and falling numbers."

[ColevilleH2S]

A falling number test through SGS runs $25 plus the cost of postage for the samples.

[blackpowder]

Some parts of the world. Get fall# of 200 due to high humidity and heat for extended periods during maturation. Here it would be difficult to get numbers too far below 300 without actual sprouting.
Visual grading worked very well for the system we had. It needs upgrading.

[sumdumguy]

I suspect our numbers are falling as we speak with this last rain. I am anxious to see the results of the sample that I sent to Montana last Friday. We really can't take any more down grading factors.

[pgluca]

There was a move a number of years ago to set up a system of remote (local elevator) colour scanners to a central computer.
The grain sample would be spread on these scanners and graded by the central computer that was programed with all the grading factors. That with the falling numbers would give a non-subjective grade which would have been consistent country wide and repeatable.
It would also have made blending a snap as you could keep mixing in higher percentages until the grade changed.
This idea however died a quick death, I suspect because some strong unions saw a danger to grading jobs............SO we are stuck with a very subjective visual system that is far from consistent even if you just use the grain commission.
As an aside a neighbor claims that his contract with a grain co. specified that they were the sole determinant of the grade they were purchasing????? If this is the case no one should deal with a company that does not use the Grain Commission as final arbitrator.

[cottonpicken]

I'd feel a hell of alot better if the human was taken out of it,doubt any jobs would be lost.

[cottonpicken]

I'd feel a hell of alot better if the human was taken out of it,doubt any jobs would be lost.