Interesting experiment

[bucket]

Braveheart

Shouldn't matter when he gets it graded it should be the same grade. WTF do you mean after season things might change?

That just means the system is flawed. Why do elevators ask for sample if the grade is going to change?

[bucket]

When I sometimes go behind the counter to watch grading I get the feeling I am annoying them. Too ****ing bad it ain't their grain yet.

And if it's like Braveheart says there maybe more negotiations after the fact.

It's a crooked system.

[Braveheart]

Well Bucket, during harvest, when quality is questionable, grain cos are reluctant to "step up" when it comes to grading. They don't want to get caught. Sorry, for the patronizing style of language.

Every year they want to see how samples compare to previous years. What was a #2 in a high quality year with a lot of #1 around will be a #1 in a year with an abundance of lower grades around.

This is the peril of visual grading vs. grain bought on specs.

[Braveheart]

Annoy away. It's you're grain, and you're right to see.

[mustardman]

Good Ritz and company dud cutbacks on the CGC. To help the grain cos get away with robbery

[furrowtickler]

I think the guys grading at the local elevators will need stress leave in about a month .
Not defending anyone just sayin it's going to be a long winter for those guys
We were at Robin Hood in Stoon today - they have seen very little hrsw worth buying yet.
The people at CGC in Stoon said usually only one maybe 2 grading factors are at play - some samples they seen had multiple issues .

[Guest]

can anyone help me out with US contacts to market high px , (14-15.7) #2 cwrs ? don't know where to start or who to talk to, or if it is even feasable when we are 700 km from US border ? about all we can get here for 15.5 px is an extra 60 -80 cents . i'm not giving this wheat away anymore .

[ado089]

Caseih, the grain industry is rather incestuous... you'll need an in. if you're willing to load rail cars talk to Kelly at sunrise foods in s'toon, tell him Adam sent you. He'll probably want to do a frenogram test on it as we stumbled upon a niche market for fast absorbing high stability wheat. Utmost has been showing the best results so far.

[sumdumguy]

Thanx Ritz, you wanna cut western programs, CGC included, thanx buddy, your boys can phone my house for money untl the cows come home, won't be any cheque flying through the mail.

[farmaholic]

Take a step back and look at some of the comments (mine included). We are slamming each other while the ****ers continue their bullshit games. No wonder they have us where they want us, we couldn't agree and unite if someone invaded us and was about to take our land and exile us. ****ing pathetic......

I don't see any one of you as my adversary. Yet we treat each other with disdain

[bucket]

Shit I always get a warm feeling being here.

My language is an impediment. But mostly you come to a consensus. Eventually.

[Braveheart]

caseih, apparently they have more sound wheat in the northern US tier than expected so bids for high px wheat has dropped a fair bit in Mpls.

There is a farm beside me hauling there every week, but they really need a back haul to make it feasible. They are bringing back 18-46-0 and urea but that business is drying up.

They are .5 km from the US border and about 10 hours to destination.

[JDGreen]

Growers look at buying falling-number machines
BY LOUISE McBRIDE Thu, Dec 30 2010


GRAINGROWERS involved with Viterra's Cowell silo committee are considering buying and implementing their own falling-number machine tests at their local site, at a cost of $40,000.
More than 40 local growers attended a meeting at Cowell on Friday, where they called for the immediate installation of a falling-number machine at all sites. Four Viterra representatives present argued visual assessment was more efficient, faster and enabled trucks to get processed quicker.
Cowell farmer Allan Zerna, secretary of the Cowell silo committee, said "inadequate" visual assessment of grain meant results were not correlating with falling-number machine assessment.
"In many cases, grain assessed by Viterra staff as sprouted and put in feed categories have been retested by machines and come back as Australian Premium White and Australian General Purpose," Mr Zerna said.
"There is a fine, subjective line between what is sprouted and where it goes. Looking all day at grain is mind-numbing work."
A Viterra spokesperson said following widespread rain across South Australia, the company had implemented a classification strategy that was designed to maintain quality standards while at the same time maximising throughput of grain.
"Viterra recognises that this is an issue that is generating debate within the grower community and we are doing everything we can to responsibly manage a difficult situation, which is statewide, in a year of record grain receivals," the spokesperson said.
"The process involves classifying wheat based on visual assessments supported by a falling-number test every 1000t, or more frequently. Visual limits are accurately set based on the correlation between visual assessments and the falling-number test results.
"These visual limits are monitored progressively and updated based on the ongoing falling-number tests to ensure there is an accurate correlation between visual assessments and falling numbers."

[ColevilleH2S]

A falling number test through SGS runs $25 plus the cost of postage for the samples.

[blackpowder]

Some parts of the world. Get fall# of 200 due to high humidity and heat for extended periods during maturation. Here it would be difficult to get numbers too far below 300 without actual sprouting.
Visual grading worked very well for the system we had. It needs upgrading.