So when prices finally hit the fan now farmers are finally seeing whats going on!

[SASKFARMER3]

So as prices nose dive and farmers all across Canada come to the reality this boom is over. A new reality starts to show up. How to pay for inputs when the crop even with a super yield wont cover.
Yes its rather simple math.
$4.00 HRS x 60 is $240 a acre if you have good quality #1 14 protein. At 50 its more like 200 and at 40 its $160.
Costs if someone gave the crop every single thing the slime bags told us to give that crop. Yea the experts that some trust to tell us farmers how to grow a crop. You have to grow a big crop because the world is running out of food Bull shit.
Well the loss on wheat is Break even at 240 to a loss of 80 a acre on a 40 bush crop. Now Canada's useless support programs by next fall after you harvest your 2015 crop you might get a phone call asking how your expenses were higher in 2014 than your income or why you spent so much growing a crop or what ever BS challenge will come from you getting a little cash. When I say little the change the Feds made to the program you now will qualify for way less than before.
But you have grain in the Bins from last years Mega crop to get you through the situation. Again I call bull shit on this. No one I know is sitting on mountains of grain from 2013. No one. Ok just one bachelor who probably still has grain from 2005 or longer. But in the scheme of things very little left.
Canola is another crop which has ended up way below cost of production.
So why when times are good do us farmers now see the games being played by industry but when the shit hits the fan finally start to open our eyes.
All along I have stated that your Suppliers, Grain Companies, Etc. are not your friends they are parasites who feed off you.
Grain grading really did we honesty thing the grain companies would be honest. Really.
Suppliers did we really ever believe all the BS with shortages etc and yield claims and disease protection. Try talking to a rep and getting a answer on some basic questions regarding disease yield etc. Its the year. Next will be better.
Market know better. Bull shit is the answer to that question.
Durum has no market it trades under yet price when its short goes up. If it was under Chicago or Minn watch it would be 7 like Canada not 13.
Farmers wake up and see its them vs. US and guess what were losing the battle.
Keep us broke and wow the game continues.

[SASKFARMER3]

All last winter we were getting royally F$%ked in Canada by our grain companies. All screwed us for their better good. Take your total grain production for 2013 on HRS and Durum and multiply by 3 or 7.
That's what you donated to the cause.
Simple math for those who don't add. 160000 bus x 3 is close to a half million Dollar donation.
The huge crop Bull shit was Bull shit. It was a great play by grain companies deflect all to railways and make out like a bandit.
Movies are not created any better. Hell the Bernie Madoffs of the USA could not have come up with a better plan.
We got screwed and screwed good.

[SASKFARMER3]

Durum farmers your getting F$%ked royally this year as supplies in USA are lower and quality is a issue. If you have good quality Durum shop it around, don't give it to them.
Similar the northern USA has a shit show on Spring wheat. Maybe yield but quality is another story. Friends might burn fields down their.
Buying inputs for 2015 now is the next ploy that will start up. Hurry supply's are limited. Price has to go up BLAH BLAH BLAH!
Here is a question for those who think just because they have had a good few past years their is a need to prepay.
Because maybe I think different why feed into the continued screw of farmers. Unless your buying for 50% less than any one else why is the question.
Why feed the parasites, Why!

[ado089]

I'm sure the chem companies will cone up with a$70/ac wheat seed to save us.

[bucket]

Yep.

And they guys that are covered for this year with forward sales should have been taking heed. Prepricing into next year the prices don't look all that great.

Meanwhile the conservatives and their minions that advised them that the cwb was keeping millions from Canadians farmers are ok with graincos keeping exponentially more.

I remember talking to my MPs about the discrepancy between prices at Port and prairie. If it was a problem with the cwb in place and needed fixing then so does the current system need fixing.

Don't look to the US for complaining. tlT

Their farmers will grow a record crop and they are already counting their support payments. They are actually hoping prices stay low during the next month because that is when the support prices are set.

[sumdumguy]

Anything wrong with brown-bag seed?

[SASKFARMER3]

Yea their is its called the Law is on their side. Nicely create to screw farmers over and over. Yet all on boards sat their getting their checks and didn't realize that No one except farmers looks out for Farmers. The rest of the industry in AG Feed off us.
Period. Its them vs US and they are winning from the top on down. We are in the Basement getting more shit thrown on us each day.
Watch the USA guys will get help and in Canada we will get lip service and told its the Market compete.

[ColevilleH2S]

Brigade Durum seed priced at CPS is $20/bus. You think they could have at least set it at $19.99 and made a guy feel better about the purchase.

[jamesb]

the net effect of all of this is that rent prices, land sales values, will fall back a little to reflect current conditions. We have had quite a string of good years with prices above cost. Just look at the new equipment in the country. Most have a new machine shed built in the last few years. Heck this situation with prices going down like they are probably should have happened a few years ago but we just didn't grow enough to fill demand. To be honest its a healthy thing for agriculture in the long term. In the 80's and 90's farmers buckled down and got efficient to survive. We will do this again.
No body is holding a gun to their head saying they must buy the newest genetics, or the newest equipment.
Everybody should do their own math.

[oneoff]

"Why feed parasites why".....good question
"Why can't you farm with less than 10,000 acres per operator; and make a living"....another good question.

"Why hasn't anyone any grain left; not one; maybe one bachelor maybe". Good question; just why would you take a royal srewing all last year on every bushel down to the bin bottoms. Yeah you should be asking yourself that question.

[farming101]

Am going to make "offers" to seed companies for canola seed needs next spring, not before.

[freewheat]

It is less a revenue problem, and more a spending problem. We as farmers could stand to spend less. Most homes have mirror. We need to use the dang things...

[farmaholic]

Quit blaming the victims....

[bucket]

I have grain left over. Took a shit kicking on it to.

Thus system is so corrupt they will probably find fuzz, mildew, ad frost in it now. Much like what Jdgreen has described.

[farmaholic]

Don't expect anything better for yourselves, while the rest of the industry forges ahead in every aspect of their business. Make your sacrifice for the better of everyone else. Don't worry about the rail fiasco or the extra wide basis. Pay no heed to the fact there are quality and quantity issues facing you and depressed prices while the rest of the Industry threatens, or worse yet, increases their prices. Be a good farmer and take what you're given, you ungrateful peasant.