So when prices finally hit the fan now farmers are finally seeing whats going on!

[dave4441]

I love it when everyone champions free interprise when times are good and blames everyone when times are bad. This string and entire website is nothing to de with commodity marketing. It's actually pathetic. I don't even come on this thing anymore as I have better more productive ways to spend my time. And the last thing I need to do is to defend my role in the chain to anyone on here. Bunch of garbage.

How did your family obtain their wealth SF3? Did your Dad not own a machinery dealership and sell out? Why do you farm if you hate it so much?

[bucket]

Dave4441

You have noticed that elevators have gone to zero basis in later months right?

Their current price comes off mpls.

Straight across with zero basis.

What do you think the cdn price should be?

Currently it is 5.43usd mpls minus 0 basis equals 5.43 cdn.

That's only a 65 cent per bushel foreign exchange theft.

Nothing to see here folks move along.

Sign a zero basis and give them 65 cents a bushel. Why not my left and right nuts, right arm and my farm as well?

Talk marketing? There us no such thing as a market in Canada.

[dave4441]

There are ways to stop being a price taker. Go out and do something for your self and quit expecting to just dump stuff in a pit. Spend some time marketing. Less time whining.

[Crazyharrows]

Hello all new here to site thought I will put my two cents in don't know what the answer is all I know is my back is sore from being bent over from grain companies fertilizer ,chemical ****ing crazy what these high ranking people in these companies make in a year all greed born with silver spoon in their mouth like to put that spoon where sun don't shine .

[dave4441]

That's exactly my point bucket. I don't sit around looking at prices in USA and crying that someone won't hand it to me on a silver platter. Are you businessmen or a socialist who believes it should all be even for everyone.

I just came thru a year that was as good financially as last year was and last year was the best our farm had ever seen. I am sold out of product. Yes I have some advantages in this but none of it is rocket science. Could markets go up from where I sold at? Yup. Do I care? No. Because I have already started working with that cash for next year as I was doing a year ago. Will I get smoked by Mother Nature? Of course at some point. Will it be next year? Pretty likely. Will I whine on here every day about the situation and tell other people that "just wait". "Your droughts coming". Totally pathetic banter. And you guys are doing this day in and day out on here. Really?

[bucket]

Dave4441

Yes I signed contracts early for off the combine delivery. Wasn't worried about the product I have it. Good price. Can't deliver.

Maybe I should take those viterra contracts and deliver to pioneer.

Sometimes I wonder if you work for an MP.

Do I personally want a drought yes. But I am not wishing it on anyone. I just want my best land back that's under landlocked water.

[bucket]

BTW

The conservatives said the open market would prevent the nonsense of driving trucks to the states as prices evened up.

It makes sense if that the closest point to deliver to.

To drive grain south to end up going to the pnw from minot after driving by 15 cdn elevators is illogical and expensive.

I am waiting to deliver.

You also realize that American farmers are getting big government cheques. Pretty hard for my farm to compete with that.

But that's OK maybe when the American farmers fill your niche market for less money because of government help. It will work out for you.

[bucket]

Dave4441

I take it you are also ok with a government that issues a OIC with daily fines and botched the writing to weekly.

Then allows the railways to miss 5 weeks of mandated targets. And instead of issuing fines they appoint an enforcement officer.

Real competent people.

[dave4441]

I have learned to worry about what I can control. You are focused on 2013 and I am focused on 2015. You are in a trap. I have worked for a chem company. I get what the reps have to do, have to promote, it't their job. Chem industry has gotten a bit greasy I admit. I don't like the scare tactics about inventory, but I can't control that. I work with it and know my agronomy enough (yeah I am getting abit weak in this area) to know when to spray and when to hold. I don't like railway incompetence but I am forced to deal with it everyday. I think about it every single day but I don't rant and rave about it or swear at them on phone or act like an idiot or try to think I could run a railroad cause I don't have the skill set to run a railroad, its not my business. I try and understand what their capacity issues are just like my business and my farm. You guys are talking about grain industry staff like there is a whole collusion from mgmt. to graders to **** with the grades. Grading grain is difficult, especially this year as there are so many grading factors all coming together at once. I don't know how to do it. Try and learn it (it really is in the best interest of your business), but don't think for a second that mgmt lines up their staff and tells them to **** the farmer. Do you realize how hard that is to do, when many of your staff are from farms or farm themselves?? One conversation or discussion with staff about doing this could destroy a company. Do you have any clue about how that conversation would go over? You don't have a god given right (although many have a family given right) to be profitable in your business. You have to earn it. End of rant.

[dave4441]

And I don't drive trucks to USA.

Start thinking like a supplier and not a customer. Farmers are customers when they pick up chemical and suppliers when they sell grain. You might be amazed what people do when you act like a supplier instead of a customer.