Water Drainage/Sask Water Security Board

[DogPatch]

well the neighbor
is in his rights too to protect his property too.

[BreadWinner]

I think your description of yourself"new house and bins" and your description of your neighbour"older 70 equip" tells me allot about you. Most people with any level of maturity don't worry about what others own or how they farm. People need to learn what it is like to be a neighbour. That's why things like this get out of hand. People have lost the ability to take other peoples concerns into concideration. Step down from your temple and go see your neighbour and work it out maybe save yourself a bit of stress and legal headaches.

[jd3007]

Breadwinner I also farm with a full line of 1970s equipment along with some early 2000 stuff.There is no brand new iron here just a modest new home and some a handful of 1505 and 1805 bins. I didn't do it on Dads money it was all my own.I have got off my "temple" as you say and have talked to him. I told him that the water is flooding my yard and and all he keeps going back to is the fact that ditching is illegal and that the ditches need to be closed even though no water goes in to him. My point is it seems that Saskwater and the complainant seem to have way more rights than an individual trying to protect their yard. When small towns were flooding this last July emergency ditches were dyking were common place when there are town people involved. Yet it seems when the individual landowner does it you are at fault. Seems little a pretty shitty system to me.

[oneoff]

Dogdung...just as long as eveyone is cosistant of what they do and demand of absolutely everyone else.

But it just doesn't often work out that way. You see water diversions and pumping off the properties of the very people who would never take a public staance of support or others whoo have sometimes majoe even had less effects off theiir lands.

Such is the myopic viewing of the bigger pictures.

[jd3007]

Breadwinner I also farm with a full line of 1970s equipment along with some early 2000 stuff.There is no brand new iron here just a modest new home and some a handful of 1505 and 1805 bins. I didn't do it on Dads money it was all my own.I have got off my "temple" as you say and have talked to him. I told him that the water is flooding my yard and and all he keeps going back to is the fact that ditching is illegal and that the ditches need to be closed even though no water goes in to him. My point is it seems that Saskwater and the complainant seem to have way more rights than an individual trying to protect their yard. When small towns were flooding this last July emergency ditches were dyking were common place when there are town people involved. Yet it seems when the individual landowner does it you are at fault. Seems little a pretty shitty system to me.

[jd3007]

Breadwinner I also farm with a full line of 1970s equipment along with some early 2000 stuff.There is no brand new iron here just a modest new home and some a handful of 1505 and 1805 bins. I didn't do it on Dads money it was all my own.I have got off my "temple" as you say and have talked to him. I told him that the water is flooding my yard and and all he keeps going back to is the fact that ditching is illegal and that the ditches need to be closed even though no water goes in to him. My point is it seems that Saskwater and the complainant seem to have way more rights than an individual trying to protect their yard. When small towns were flooding this last July emergency ditches were dyking were common place when there are town people involved. Yet it seems when the individual landowner does it you are at fault. Seems little a pretty shitty system to me.

[jd3007]

Breadwinner I also farm with a full line of 1970s equipment along with some early 2000 stuff.There is no brand new iron here just a modest new home and some a handful of 1505 and 1805 bins. I didn't do it on Dads money it was all my own.I have got off my "temple" as you say and have talked to him. I told him that the water is flooding my yard and and all he keeps going back to is the fact that ditching is illegal and that the ditches need to be closed even though no water goes in to him. My point is it seems that Saskwater and the complainant seem to have way more rights than an individual trying to protect their yard. When small towns were flooding this last July emergency ditches were dyking were common place when there are town people involved. Yet it seems when the individual landowner does it you are at fault. Seems little a pretty shitty system to me.

[BreadWinner]

Here ya go getting your back up, your always right. That flood litigation has to be restored after the flood disaster is over. That's the rules!!! You told your neighbour, maybe you should of asked him first. I'm on the downside of a few water draining idiots myself. So I can sympathize with your neighbour. The drainage obsession seems to run deep in our area. The waters not my problem once it leaves in my ditch is the common theme. Our lakes are overflowing and every little ditch adds to the problem. But who cares now it their problem. EH!!!! It's about time farmers that are getting ditched onto get some rights. Got a neighbour that's getting his but sued off for ditching onto everyone around him. Justice will be given. Hope you give your head a shake.

[mbdog]

jd3007...Sorry to hear of your problems as you make try and make improvements, and it sounds like your in an all too common "neighbor" issue. The country was built on ag land improvements and most people enjoy a quality of life because of it....just saying.
I won't judge, like others on this thread have done, whether you or the other instigated or is at fault, but I do believe CLEAR provincial regulatory oversight with CLEARLY DEFINED rules/guidelines through a permitting process would go along ways towards solving the problem. Im not a big fan of the idea, the beurocracy, the public service or the politics in this portfolio....very frustrating...but in our area, drainage works and improved sc****r/laser technology has caused infrastructure to blow, overwhelming municipal and provincial budjets. But this is no reason to say "no drainage".
You as a producer should have every right to improve and get your water to the municipal/provincial property.

[jd3007]

Breadwinner I dug one ditch to protect my yard. I I have lots of potholed covered land that I would love to ditch but won't because I want to be a good neighbor . I could put all kind if ditches into this neighbor but I choose not to. If you are are flooded by someone you should have rights and should complain. If my water doesn't go in to you, then you then you shouldn't. Simple enough isn't it? Every situation is different. I have talked to my neighbors that I may have an effect on and we all have water problems and have had enough. Flooded yards, basements, corrals, driveways and roads. We drain naturally in to a lake 8 miles away and a little ditching, some culverts, elimination of some beaver dams and channel clearing would fix the problem. And I have talked to everyone downstream and they all agree. But certain people who although are not affected by the water can still complain and put a stop to the process because they may have an impact. It looks like you are one of those people.
I will be putting in ditch blocks to restore the area back to how it was. I will also move my bins on higher ground on other land I have. I will then put this half section up for sale and maybe sell it to someone who likes undrained pothole covered land. I will offer it to my neighbor first, but I can keep you in mind as you seem to like undrained natural land.