QE "The Subsidy"

[checking]

Expansion of the universe is an example of something that can grow forever.
Wealth fits there.(lol)

I'm positive that as old men you will still be talking your cave"bear" language of doom.

Geez, you guys could spoil a beautiful fall day. "Fall" not representing a market.

[farmaholic]

There was a point in time Man thought the world was flat. There is likely way more to learned about the universe than is known. They have only scratched the surface. To say it will expand forever is an assumption. Change, it probably will but no one knows how for sure.

Sorry if you feel the topic at hand sounds like its being disussed by a bunch of doomsday sayers. To ignore it is your choice. If you have capital you worked hard to earn and save why wouldn't you think about trying to protect it? Or at the very least reduce the deflationary impact on it? Nothing is immune but some "investments" will fair better than others and that was part of the point of my posts here.

Good luck.

[farmaholic]

Cotton, I don't know if the last "40 year experiment" erased the history preceding it. But it certainly appears to have failed. It is a system of money creation by simply over leveraging the base capital. The foundation can't support what's been built on it.

How could they continue to use the finite supply of gold to support the system they've created? If they did what would an ounce be worth today? I don't think they could have manipulated the gold standard system as easily.....

But WTF do I know?

[rkaiser]

Expansion is not the problem, it is very natural and the ultimate truth. The problem and the worst crime on the planet is suppression by those in power; or who feel they are in power due to money. False money created out of thin air and ridiculously charged interest. Those of you who do not believe that corporations and our current "capitalist" system has not be high jacked by monopolistic corporate giants who even direct govern mente - the self proclaimed mind controllers need to wake up. There is so much room on this planet for technological advancement and yes - expansion, only suppressed by our human desire to control it and suppress it, if need be, to "protect" assets. Look back in his-story and take a look at when the progress and evolution have occurred. It was when humans were "allowed" to "create" and not suppressed by scared humans at the top of the pyramid scam who figured out how to keep the people in "cheque".

Those at the top are scared and desperate folks and creativity is what has done it. You can only hold mankind back for so long and they always revolt.

Never mind living in good old Oilberta, can you imagine what will happen on this planet when the desperate suppression of petro energy is finally over? Has anyone even considered the Rockefeller's divesting funds away from oil and gas?

Very - very good times ahead. Whoop Whoop.

[errolanderson]

Calgary Herald business section full of commentary on 'Crude prices on the rebound'

good grief . . . those that feel markets owe them a return are like deer in the headlights right now . . . .

[macdon02]

Have more kids because pensions are dust. Gonna need someone to keep the land producing. The grain and meat farmer will survive because you can touch everything we work for. I know nothing just what I've read.

[cottonpicken]

Farm-i'm just coming up on 11 years down the rabbit hole,well over 10,000 hours in,which is what they say you need to master something,doubt i post a tenth of what i thnk.

I remember it well because my wife got pregnant and i realized,no more fun and games i needed to know if there was a future in farming.

So i did,and seen this stuff coming,well documented here,at least most,some of the archives have been erased,i use to be quite the prick,i underestimated the emotional impact and found out you should really act like you are talking to someone face to face,i thought it was all a big fun joke,still very sorry for the way i behaved.

I remember telling my now passed Grampa farming was going to get easy,land and grain would go up,he said the most prophetic thing to me i have ever heard,({while laughing}"farming was never easy")

How i could be so blind to the words of someone who had hundreds and hundreds of thousands of hours into the profession i'll never know-"confidence of youth"

I dont jump in on many of the "real" farming threads because i know i dont know and will probably never be as good as most.

Maybe the storm clouds i see wont really be that bad,i sure hope i'm wrong.

Take it all with a grain,even the vet told us yesterday not to give our dog bones pppffffff...

[cottonpicken]

Gold was always considered money because a guy could sell a camel in china then buy a bushel of wheat in germany,think a piece of paper from china could do the same.

Money is simply the means of exchange and store of value,could i pay you a million zimbawe dollars,confederates,pre ww2 deutchmarks,monopoly money,or the other over 600 examples of failed government paper promises for a goods or service.

There is nothing special or magical about it,its just what the world chose-that is a simple truth..

It takes a massive amount of time and energy to produce it like everything else worth while in this world does.

Its value doesnt matter 1 dollar a gram a 100 a gram,it gets converted into the good or service-please,please understand this point-whos own median of exchange is then realized

In todays world i dont see it as the panacea,the best idea i have heard is to tie the worlds currencies down to a basket of goods,like twenty or so,it was out of some dutch bankers head many years ago and i'll be damned if i can find it.

[sumdumguy]

I'll take my gold wafers to Regina, see who'll accept them for a new Audi, or Las Vegas next month, see if the Bellagio thinks it is money. Just saying. I think it is about as portable, transferrable and exchangeable as my old Chevy truck. Not everyone will accept it as payment.

[cottonpicken]

See what you think when the dollars in your bank account get cut in half over night,look at what happened to the us dollar in the thirties but we all know about that simple simple simple thing and therefore we know or do we?