elections

[oneoff]

The biggesst shock of all might be to remind a council that after the RO has been named by council; the election is in the hands of the election staff that gets enlisted outside council control.

I might get corrected on poll clerks

[mbdog]

Oneoff...what is your point? Read and reread your comments...all I gathered was you want a voters list? Have you been on council? Your sounding a bit hillbillyish

[oneoff]

That's a lot like asking where your brains are? Or even if you have a brain? Or do you know enough to see what a point is.

Can't you see?

[oneoff]

OK none of that last comment was called for; just as living in a basement or being a hillbilly is so far from being appropriate.

Try just these examples previously mentioned and see what you reaction is Outrage or support??

For instance; if some council in your area... or any other area was consecutively asked for at least two years to support the local high school yearbook fund raising committee;( by buying a quarter page advertisement in that publication)...... What would your reaction be if it were denied. Not because of lack of money. Not because one council member had a grievance; but a whole round the table outburst of apparently deeply held hatred based excuses expressed by every council member present before the vote. Especially if you knew that some $300 donation to some Regina "Agriculture in the Classroom" donation was considered money well spent?

Or as has been mentioned a couple times; some other municipality passing a resolution prohibiting use of all electronic devices within council chambers during council and committee meetings. Obviously and specifically designed to thwart any legitimate text communication with anyone else. Remember that sitting in a public gallery is not necessarily appreciated by those in group that aims for zero opportunities for ratepayers meetings; and fears "open mics " (microphones ) at public meetings.
Would you and any other potential voter also call that a little "hillbillyish" in this day and age ... or could you agree....unequivically.... that those were examples of the most mean spirited ; inappropriate and reprehensive behavior of any elected representative that you would ever expect to encounter.

And would you express outrage or just prefer to shoot the messenger?. Would you characterize that as an "exelent job"?

And remember that my comments are directed to any rural municipal council (of which there are way too many) and any ratepayer who ignores/condones such decisions by any council. My point is the general rot seen in more than one council.

Thats one point. Need I go further; because that should be enough.

[oneoff]

http://rmofmoosecreek.ca/January112012.pdf


motion 19/12. Anyone care to explain?

[mbdog]

oneoff...I'll disregard your comments towards me and take it as reflection of the kind of person I am dealing with.
I asked if you were ever on council? You obviously have contempt for these elected bodies, so I'm guessing no.
You also....if I read between the lines correctly...obviously have a stick up your ass regarding some or all councillors, decisions made, and the election/governing process.
You site a yearbook contribution that was denied...one you obviously disagreed with...I do not. There will always be disagreement on priorities/arguments regarding the use of public funds....which by the way are not unlimited in some taxpayers minds.
Banning electronic devices....well that's standard protocol just about everywhere....dunno what you're implying regarding thwarting legitimate communication. Do you want to video and post on social media? On a witch hunt?What?
Cameras and mic's in open council...have no problem with this, nor should any council.
In open council, you should have the right to present/speak to any/all concerns you have for all the world to see.
I ask again...have you been elected/ran for council or any other political position for that matter...maybe I'm questioning JT and don't know it...

[mbdog]

read the motion...no/can't comment...no background info/explanation. You obviously site a resolution which names people for AV to see. Would you care to explain the context of the resolution.

[oneoff]

Don't worry; you'd fit right in. Probably do. While those are the last minutes posted; all you have to do is read the previous minutes to get some of council's perspective.

But don't think for one minute that there aren't other sides of a story that might be quite different from this publically posted "official" version ie. authorized by council and posted on "their" site.

Wow you said it all.

[oneoff]

"maybe I'm questioning JT and don't know it... '

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY HAVE BROUGHT THAT on. I'll bet that whomever "JT" is that I would have a lot more in common with that person than an attitude such as yours.

Attacking messengers is not going to ever ensure a 100% comfortable atmosphere for your fears and insecurities. There will always be those who disagree wholeheatedly....and hopefully for everone's sake ....some will continue to point out some gross faults and blatant errors.

Lest your head becomes even more swollen.

[oneoff]

And come to think of it; thats how any accountability disappears.

New minutes have never since appeared on that municipal web site.

You see; the official minutes have to have a mover and seconder for each motion. Now IF there is any released public record; it tyically shows up as a non-descript "we had lunch, passed the amounts owing and went home. Anything controversial is typically hidden in some acronym; a Bylaw number or some land location or date that has some slight error. All that ratepayers are not meant to know is also censored out

No wonder you sometimes don't recognize the meeting you attended.

And those "blunder" motions can just disappear from the record.

"exelent job"

[oneoff]

The key word is "security". You can't elaborate on such a word that has not been explained (to my knowledge)