2014 Canola experiment

[Jagfarms]

http://jagfarms.blogspot.ca/2014/10/2014-canola-experiment.html?m=1

[gustgd]

What did Pioneer Hybrid end up saying?

https://www.agriville.com/cgi-bin/forums/viewThread.cgi?1391296945

[Jagfarms]

They told me same thing as CFIA
"Plant Breeders' Rights protection on '46A76' was
surrendered on February 19, 2009 making it a
publicly available variety under the PBR Act.
I can seed my own seed on my farm

[Jagfarms]

May 13th to 17th we seeded some Bin run canola that we were told was 46A76 canola. We got the seed treated with some Helix extra. We used a seeding rate of 5.5 pounds per acre. Most of this canola we applied 52 pounds of 14-36-0-7 fertilzer with the seed and 104 pounds of 41-0-0-4 fertilzer in the mid row. One field we applied a higher rate of 66 pounds with the seed and 170 pound in the mid row of the the same blends we used at the lower rate.


May 17th We seeded some Canterra 1990 canola at a seeding rate of 5 pounds per acre. We applied 60 pounds 14-36-0-7 fertilizer with the seed and 140 pounds of 41-0-0-4 fertilzer in the midrow.

We swathed the bin run canola from August 23rd to September 2nd

We combined the bin run canola from September 12th to September 17th

We had some seeded in some lighter land that was Pea stubble, durum stubble, and some summerfollow.
In the light land the weed control was not too good. We used a 1/3 rate of pursuit and assure.
In the light land it had an average yield of 27 bu/ acre.

We had some seeded on some heavier land that was lentil stubble. On the heavier land it yielded 39 bu/acre and the fields were very clean except for some volunteer lentils. We also used 1/3 rate pursuit and assure.


We did not get to swath the Cantara 1990 canola with all the rain we were not able to get there in time so we ended up straight combining it.
We combined it Sept 17-18. It was seeded on Summerfollow and durum stubble. On the summerfollow it was yielding around 50 /acre. On the durum stubble it yielded in the low 30s for an average yield of 36 bu/acre. The Cantarra 1990 was very clean. We used .5 litre acre roundup hc for weed control.


We hauled all of our canola into our local terminal at harvest time except for 1 bin which we weighed so our yields are very accurate.

[SASKFARMER3]

Gust this is what I was taking about for years old varieties that are just as good or better and cost is astronomically cheaper! This is what will happen with wheat watch and learn! 8 years or newbies just starting to seed canola have no clue what can happen in heat drought or two wet at flowering etc. the new varieties are all talk and no action! U.S. cSnola guys see what has happened to a great crop when industry hijacks it! We loose every time!

[MBgrower]

Same experience in southern mb. After a couple 4 inch rain events, all canola varieties yield the same.

We should all grow some old varieties next year next to the "latest greatest" varieties and post the results on this forum next fall.

Any one know of an independent research firm, or provincial ag repis currently testing old varieties against new ones? Sure would like to see the results.

[bgmb]

So how much cheaper to grow the 76 versus the 11 dollar per lb stuff? I would guess 40 bucks an acre.

[Jagfarms]

The seed is About $40 acre cheaper
The weed control could be more for the 46A76 if you use Tensile or ares
We just used 1/3 rate pursuit and assure but if the land is not really clean I would use something better for weed control

[bgmb]

so apples to apples if we were to use a higher end spray on the clearfield its probably 30 bucks an acre cheaper to grow,

pretty good if you can get it to yield the same or close to the same.

[gustgd]

Saskfarmer from what I understand, what you say and what you do are two different things.

When you post an experiment like Jag has let us know in the spring like he did and then post results in the fall.

On our farm we have had very good yields with the clearfield varieties. Then give back all the gains in weed control, yield loss and cleaning canola out of lentils in that part of the rotation.

In a tough year like this one yields were compareable. In a year like 2013 I want the best genetics possible. Thing is nobody knows the weather.

It's all about the choice. Like in commodities the cure for high prices is high prices. I hope these seed companies make so much they attract competitors and have lots to reinvest in newer and better.

Cereals is a different ball game until hybrids come. That's a step change

[mustardman]

Each and everyone of us need to tell our Con mps to Shove their "agricultural Growth act" back up their heavily LOBBIED ass.

We don't need $ 60/acre wheat seed

[mustardman]

gustd "attract competitors" you are joking right ?

How many seed companies has Monsanto bought out ? Or syngenta or bayer?
These guys want control . Control over seed , the chemical you put on them ,the innoculant etc etc

All the while Charging whatever the market will 'bayer'