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    #21
    The key is were feeding these crops more that is the magic pill!

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      #22
      Bucket. On my farm, I call those years, "the lost" years. I was learning on my own how to farm. We had been having fantastic growing seasons through the 90's. Nitrogen was 20 odd cents a lb. as a small example. I grew some good crops, but they could have been SOOOOO much better, if I knew then what I know now about my soils, agronomy, and had I had a bit better machinery.

      I kick myself to this day for not taking better advantage of the weather those days.

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        #23
        Maybe this thought is to conspiratorial but.....if i was the devil and making plants for a company why not design one that needs a bunch of fert to perform?

        Do you guys that know what your doing sense anything like this?

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          #24
          Sask,is this sort of what you are getting at?,dont want to plagiarize anyone.

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            #25
            Cotton. You are exactly right. My dad never used diddly for fertilizer in the 70's and into the 80's. Yet he had decent enough yields. Can't say it was all the double disc press drill!!!

            That is EXACTLY what SF3 and some of us are saying is happening.

            Count me in on this experiment!

            What variety should I use? Imagine if we all came to recognize the good old varieties do just fine? I am sure the seed grower types would beg for yet more de-registration of "varieties that fail to meet standards", whatever the heck that means.

            I guess westar was killing people. Katepwa, Klages, Norbert, Selkirk, AC Excel.....

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              #26
              Freewheat

              If you had a bin of kyle durum and it looked good. Do you think the graincos would give a **** if it met their current specs?

              Likely not.

              I agree with you.

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                #27
                Bucket, with my luck, they would test it! lol.

                The thatcher I have looks just like the Shaw I grew this year. Wait, it actually looks MUCH, MUCH better.

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                  #28
                  I'm on side with most of you. Yield wise. But here where I seed canola, without blackleg resistance I'd have nothing. Without club root resistance I'd be asking for big trouble. Do I want the varieties I grew in the 80s? For the most part no. But today's cost structure has gotten heavy handed. And the yield performance is not that much "better" on some of the latest varieties. Unfortunately, canola in this area will always be a rotation leader.

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