Creeping and leaping Regulations & Requirement Standards

[oneoff]

In addition to warehouse and seed treatment facility standards (linked in previous thread); there are open ended "photosanitary requirements" that have become the responsibility of primary producers.

Its not only your puny production that might be affected. And thats why the chemical companies want to distance their liability; for "their products" as far as possible from their companies.

As an example of where this might be leading; it was possible in USA to successfully pressure a class action false advertising allegation about an unproven low glycemic index product. And no doubt the advertising was misleading and false.

But the fact is that both the defendant and applellant recommended settling because one side knew they had pushed the law as far as they presently could on a $1.99 proposed refund (and had scored a major public relations blow); while the otherside knew 2.9 million in legal fees on top a $5 Million settlement was the easiest way out.

[Hopalong]

Perhaps wrong to put all the blame on Ritz and the Harper government.
More of an international thing and reinforces idea that countries work together on standards.

[oneoff]

Still doesn't change a damn thing about the end position of primary producers.

Please answer that observation.

[Hopalong]

Agree.
Best response from us is not to fight change but work with farmer organizations and governments.
If society demands new and different production standards, we are better off to try to meet them rather than just resist them.
Market economies have generally been more successful in sorting these things out than over-regulated or centrally planned ones.

[bucket]

What?

Who is currently over regulating farmers?

They cut every service do its now on the producer's dime.

Flax testing. No local cgc grading offices. Now seed treatments. Etc.

They make more regulations without resources available to farmers within reason.

I think that is where resistance comes from.

[sumdumguy]

You are right Bucket. They have cut every service, gutted every farm program, but they still can't balance the books.

Where is Tom? Hiding behind the Welcome to Alberta sign?

[grassfarmer]

Join the resistance folks. As the only organization working for farmers interests in the "seed saving" campaign I suggest you at least acknowledge the efforts of the National Farmers Union.

"Our Bill C-18 Petition Campaign has been very successful so far. As of October 24, 71 petitions had been presented in the House of Commons and 53 had been filed with the Clerk of the House for a total of 124 petitions delivered to Parliament. 61 MPs have presented one or more petitions. Excluding Quebec and Newfoundland and Labrador, 27 percent of all MPs have presented petitions on Bill C-18."

Keep the pressure up this is winnable - it's time to draw a line in the sand and say "NO MORE!".

[bucket]

Grassfarmer

The truths and facts are outweighing the government's generic response.

Just look at the pissing match between kornychuk and ritz in the western producer.

Ritz can only give party generic letters which are outdated and pure nonsense.

Kornychuck at least has some facts to back his statements up.

The conservatives are going to have some explaining to do after the next election. You may see that deer in headlights look on some candidates.

[sawfly]

i guess the free and open markets are only meant for the buyers of our products.


But when we buy inputs.
what happens rules regulations,import dutys
closed borders. how come?

you would think a Conservative govt.
would be all for free competition,
deregulation , innovation , open borders and trade.

is that not what they claim to stand for?

apparently , i was wrong.

what the do is

create seed and chem . monolopys
that , limit opportunity and stifle innovation.

no need for R&D to make anything new or better.(just a waste)

No need for price competition,
just extract more and more $for the same old crap.

because you have regulated all other options out of existence.

you have a captive market which you can abuse to no end. how nice for them good for shareholders


all with the help of a few Judas
farm groups MPs and uncle toms.

At least with the CWB distraction gone ,farmers are starting to wake up
and see the real villains

[oneoff]

Well as everyone should now be able to see; there was more wrong with the agriculture industry than the CWB.

Apparently not.

[bucket]

Smoke and mirrors. Divide and conquer.

The CPP buys 100000 acres without a whimper - it's a government agency.

All to consolidate to larger controllable entities.

Democracy corrupts itself to socialism.