Condo developer to ship canola oil to China, Canada says

[Braveheart]

It's Freudian. Ask your mother.

[bucket]

No, what it proves is every so called private business relies on government in one form or another.

[bucket]

We can't move the crops we grow now more trade deals won't help. At one point someone is going to have to fix the enormous problems here. It has been said we are out of the Japanese market, so we send Ritz our to sign more deals canada can't deliver on? Wtf is wrong with some of you peoples thinking?

[fjlip]

In the email I strongly suggested that a better deal would be a third railroad from CHINA to get our products delivered to China. Will see if there is a reply!

[bucket]

There won't be. I doubt they even understand what you suggested.

[Braveheart]

"If you build it they will come". Many of you on here are living in a Field of Nightmares not a Field of Dreams.

Commercial business would put the sales on the books or at least on the horizon so capacity could be planned and booked.

[farmaholic]

If you're saying we look at and treat people as we see ourselves, I don't think that wide brush gets everyone.

I am the most untrustworthy, dishonest rube you'd ever want to meet, therefore...


I'm far too simple and naive, therefore...

[farming101]

Stats show that Canada has done over 2 MMT canola oil exports each year since 2010, with a value of anywhere from 2.8 to over 3 billion dollars.
If this is legit the article said it is a billion dollar deal over 7 years.
Domestic crush in 2013 produced 2.825 million tonnes of oil.

[bucket]

braveheart

As I just stated on another thread this should have started in 1997, not now.

Holy ****. This happened in 1997 and hermanson is on record complaining about it. There has been nothing done since then and nothing done this year.

Telling the railways to work in nice weather isn't a solution.

No fines, no level of service agreements. No nothing.

The railways and graincos got the green light to do exactly the same thing as last year.

And is being applauded by the incompetence in Ottawa.

[farming101]

The new Cargill plant coming online at Camrose could fill this contract three times over.

[Braveheart]

Farmaholic, I doubt you are naive, or dishonest. Your smiley icon betrays.

Usually though, distrust or suspicion belies a lack of confidence. It's easier for many to blame someone else, than to do research, due diligence, or just actively manage, thusly leading to being unsure of your position.

In this case, a trade deal, it's beyond our control. There's no use wringing hands about who's behind what and how the deal smells.

What's in our control is what do when the trade wants to buy the seed needed for the oil. What price we'll take to open our bins is in our control as well.

I want to celebrate any deal that increases demand for canola.

[bucket]

Keep celebrating as the product waits to move from your bin to the crusher that is backed up or short of railcar movement.

I seriously think until the problems within our domestic transportation are solved none of this means shit.

And it should have started a long time ago.

Vision, and there is an incredible lack of it in canada, is what is needed.

No sense in having goals like 25mmt of canola by 2025 if the transportation industry doesn't start stepping up.

[sawfly]

good points bucket

i know nothing of this deal or it's end result.

but it is pretty apparent (esp after this last winter) that when it comes to having the ear of the govt.

farmers are so far down the list
below railways ,seed and chem co.s
that it really does not matter
what is fair or right
or even what we think.

the only way farmers will get anything on their wish list is if some one higher up can make a buck on it.

sure you might get an agrinvest
check for 8-10,000. and help with crop insurance.

but at the same time they will take away 100,000 with the (rules, patents regulations , duty's,) written for agribusiness benefit.

their subsidies are ten times as big and the taxpayer never sees them.
smart

[wmoebis]

I wonder if the Condo guys would build us some down town Calgary condo's in trade for some canola.
We could move canola at set price then collect rent on increasing market for years.

[sumdumguy]

As long as the condo doesn't have bars on the windows. LOL