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    From agrimoney.com

    Land values in the US Corn Belt fell by the most since the global financial crisis, while appreciation in the in central Plains market has slowed "considerably" - and prices are expected to drop further, central bank reports showed.Farm values in Plains states such as Kansas and Nebraska rose by 2.0%, year on year, for irrigated land and by 1.2% for non-watered plots, the weakest pace of price growth since 2009, the Federal Reserve's Kansas City bank said."After several years of strong price appreciation… cropland value gains have dropped considerably," the Fed said, adding that about one-third of bankers contacted for its survey forecast a further decline in values, against only 5% foreseeing an increase.Indeed, quarter-on quarter data showing prices already dropping for non-irrigated and, especially, irrigated sites, with values of the latter down more than 4%.'Dramatic decline'A separate report, from the Chicago Fed, on a Corn Belt region encompassing states such as Iowa, the top corn and soybean producing state, Illinois and Indiana, showed prices stagnated year on year - also the worst performance since 2009 - and falling by 2% quarter on quarter, the biggest drop since 2008,The value decline was blamed on a "dramatic" fall in crop prices, which had cut farmers' income prospects despite the likelihood of record yields."The continuation of a dramatic decline in corn and soybean prices helped drive down farmland values across most of the district," which also includes Michigan and Wisconsin, the Fed's Chicago bank said."The downturn in crop prices of the past two years finally extinguished the trend of rising farmland values that had prevailed in the district since the fourth quarter of 2009."Price prospectsIndeed, in this region, lenders were even more downbeat on prospects than those surveyed by the Fed's Kansas City bank, with 56% expecting values to fall in the October-to-December period, compared with only 1% expecting an increase."This is the first time since 1998—and only the second time since 1985—that a majority of respondents expected a decrease in farmland values for the upcoming quarter," David Oppedahl at the Chicago Fed said.Furthermore, "respondents anticipated the demand to acquire farmland this fall and winter to be weaker than a year ago for both farmers and nonfarm investors".Nearly one-half of bankers forecast a drop in the volume of deals this quarter, compared with a year ago, while 11% expected an increase

    #2
    " rose by 2 % "

    Prices are still going up.

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      #3
      "with values of the latter down more than 4%"

      "and falling by 2% quarter on quarter, the biggest drop since 2008"

      Or not….

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        #4
        Wait. Land always appreciates! They are not making it anymore! What is going on, how can land values drop?

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          #5
          Lol land value has dropped before and it will drop again!!!!

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            #6
            guess I'm not helping the situation, added 400ac of native prairie to my seeded acre column over the last 3 years

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              #7
              Yeah I have a fair amount more land I can "make" as well. I made couple hundred acres a few years back.

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                #8
                Freewheat

                Look back to the 80's and see what land values did then. This line about them not making anymore means nothing. It's about equal to saying grain prices have to go up because people are starving!

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                  #9
                  You missed the sarcasm. I know exactly what happened in the 80's.

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                    #10
                    Everyone wants to get in on the upside of the bubble... when there's money to be made, memories tend to be short.

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                      #11
                      Real estate is the most common way people become wealthy. Self included and most other farmers.

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                        #12
                        On top of it 80s had high interest rates that some got locked into. The savior and driver to land prices now is low interest rates. Even that is maxed out. Investors want profits. Locals dont have enough cash to take over the debt. Should be downward pressure. Jdgreen can only purchase so much.

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                          #13
                          hopper you make buying a couple of sections sound like a big deal. Get with the times man

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                            #14
                            Every area has different drivers in farm land prices.. Saskatchewan population is still growing and unemployment the lowest. The last few years Saskatchewan has leaped up with the rest of the country in housing and average job income and farm land prices. I do think some types of land the prices may soften but as long as out population continues to grow do not look for a crash. In fact some pasture land that sold at a much lower price here should be going up soon. This may even out the slight drop of grain land and result in a level off according to stats.. Money brings people ..People bring Money...

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                              #15
                              But the land has to generate a positive revenue. Year after year. One thing no one wants to talk about, is that in the 1980's, inputs were tiny, risk was much lower if you had not jumped on the land buying bandwagon. LOTS of guys made out VERY well in the 1980's, if they had been even a little frugal and sane.

                              30 bucks an acre got one a lot of inputs. Now some guys are saying they have 300 bucks in a crop.

                              Counting on 300 bucks of revenue, year in year out, in a place with as volatile a climate of Saskatchewan, is just plain dumb.

                              Bottom line, is the land has to create a positive net return, or prices crash. Sure interest rates are currently "saving" us, but input costs are IMO the new issue. IF the Regina/Saskatoon corridor were to get anything like the edm/Cgy corridor, sure, there is population pressure. But out in the country, 3 hours from anything, there is zero population pressure at all, no oil, and so prices are based more in reality.

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