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U.S. farmers set for huge government payouts despite bumper harvest!

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    #25
    I mean under the same program we will have better payments in general not neccesssarilly more as they have lhigher gross. And income per acre.

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      #26
      OK bucket, super simple question. What does it cost to produce 1 bushel of milling wheat at 13.5% protein?

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        #27
        Forage; My prediction for "election spending" for ag is we will see some sort of vote buying payment. After the last round of Ag policy changes and legislation , I don't think I can be bought.

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          #28
          Think US programs are more complicated than many of us think.
          Payment limits are $125,000 per year and have to choose between programs, can't be in both price and risk coverage.
          Kind of pales in comparison with agstability where I believe limit is three million.

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            #29
            Farmaholic

            I'm glad you can't be bought,shows character, but unfortunately there are several posters on here that don't need to be bought to remain loyal to the Cons.In fact they are the ones sending the cheques the other way!!Good job or not doesn't matter to them.

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              #30
              And who do you think should lead canada? Justin trudeau or Thomas mulcair? I'll take harper over those two every time. I think they're doing more things right than wrong. I hope it's alright to express my opinion on here.

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                #31
                Tweety,

                The only reference to a cost of production per bushel I have ever seen published was that Schultz guy in Alberta. $2.50/bushel. It was in a globe and Mail article

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                  #32
                  Stonepicker, I understand your sentiment, but Mulcair as a Liberal would be better than a New Democrat. Just my opinion.

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                    #33
                    Hobby, then at 5 or 6 bucks sold - more then twice the cost of production, that's a very good return.

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                      #34
                      I think that is a reasonable rate of return yes. Naturally, More is better.
                      I'm a farmer so, no matter how high the grain price, it's never enough. I can't spend it fast enough.

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                        #35
                        The cheap food policy exists all over the world. The reality is we live in Canada will never have the same level of income support as USA or Europe or for that matter any other country that supports agricultural production for various reasons from food security to economic policy so the best we can hope for is efficiencies that enable us to be competitive.

                        And in even this we are failing as evidenced by the gaps between global grain prices and what we receive in western Canada for out commodities. Indeed in most cases we pay more for goods and services to operate our business' than that of our competitors as well.

                        Just back from China and they pay less for gas for their cars than we do in Canada... go figure.

                        Somewhere in the spreads we need to find profit, and indeed someone in Ottawa and Regina should be doing the math as indeed the Canadian farm economy is trying to thrive in some very incredible gaps, which are incredibly large.

                        Our role as farmers is to find opportunity, the role of government is to provide a reasonable playing field in which to thrive.

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                          #36
                          Well said western vic

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