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[mbdog]

redleaf...you did nothing wrong.

[jdepape]

I agree - mbdog.

redleaf - sorry if you feel beat up. I said complaining - whining is a lot different than complaining. My kids whine - my wife complains. Big difference.

I didn't see you as whining. You have good reason to complain. As an industry we have done a lousy job at explaining how markets work. I remember being involved in the Cash, futures and options courses we put on in the 90's. Real entry-level stuff. It was like giving guys a textbook on brain surgery and telling them to "go read it and then give it a try".

We should have done more.

For where I sit in the cheap seats it seems to me, although we should have done it long ago, now is the time to "UP" you game and learn how the market really works.

And I guess my point is this. I hate bad regulations - and when I hear talk about grain company gouging and farmers being taken advantage of, and of people like Ralph Goodale suggesting we "cap" the basis as a solution, I cringe while I envision all kinds of opportunity (and farm profits) go out the window.

I don't think the solution is to regulate more. I think it is to make improvements where we can. And when I see guys selling at 40-50 under when there is a large "carry" in the spreads, I am reminded where we can improve the market the easiest.

[TASFarms]

On the tax issue. If your not paying tax your not making money. It's as simple as that.