NH3 PreBuy, Simply WTF!

[SASKFARMER3]

Yes I understand that NH3 is based on a price out of the USA. But the product is not brought in to Canada from over seas its produced right here in Shit hole Saskatchewan and then shipped south to ND. Some years the trucks delivering to the plant are bringing NH3 back to our home town from ND. So it kind of takes a truck ride south then north again. What a system.
So again yes the dollar at .85 does add to the price if you use Fertilizer logic.
But when I am seeing prepay at .59 to high of .61 its WTF time.
Also some companies are just coming out today with their price. Ah did you all have a meeting and wonder what is the best price you can gouge the consumer.
AH the fertilizer game it is one of life's great mysteries.

[bucket]

Grain is priced in usd. Pricing never converts on my grain like it does on fertilizer.

Just ask depape for the explanation.

Fertilizer and grain are produced mid point saskatchewan. They both get trucked south. Fertilizer gets a price increase and grain gets discounted.

Go figure?

[SASKFARMER3]

Last spring I would say 60% of the semi loads into the two bullets beside us were from ND.
Yes we never ran out of product but doesn't compute.

[Hamloc]

Sask3 good points. Why is potash just as bad or worse. Price quoted the other day is 540 a tonne. They sell this product to china and india for closer to 300 a tonne US but charge canadians through the nose to this I say wtf as well!

[bucket]

We get the price if we bought it from China. So we pay the freight both ways.

[TASFarms]

Should just start putting light crude oil in the sprayer and see just how much that would pay.

[Hopperbin]

So any long term pre buying farmers considering holding off for a bit or just pay it now? Wont hurt to hold off a bit would it?

[Hopperbin]

Fna just give word about starter fertilizer price increase. So they are no help.

[seabass]

Talked to a guy in northern Wisconsin and they are paying 450 a tonne for potash and we paid 475 and we are 2 hours from mine. Dumb dumb dumb

[blackpowder]

I remember hauling fertilizer out of Redwater in the 80s. Into MT. $100t less than home.
World price and domestic price I was told then. Yup. That's why some MT bills of lading loads wound up in Medicine Hat. Whatever.

18 or 19 years out of 20 it's cheaper now than spring. For whatever reason. Suit yourself. maybe start your own trucking company.

[bgmb]

manufacturers are selling at around 800/tonne delivered to the bullet in the spring. looks like some input dealers are trying to make some pretty big margins.

[bgmb]

actually probably less than 800 in many cases.

[hobbyfrmr]

Farms are getting bigger and profitable. The easiest way for a retailer to trigger a sale is to loosely describe what the "big guys" are doing and/or buying.
They way to trigger a sale to the very large is to describe something larger than them. India and China have each a billion people to feed. They know it's cheaper to import fertilizer and increase yields at home than it is to import grain/food. When they step into the market they will move prices and possibly interrupt supply. So, ACT NOW, protect your margins and secure your supply. You don't want machines sitting, paying men to sit for for 8 hours waiting for anhydrous delivery.
The retailer knows to scare the tiny fish with a small fish, small fish with big fish and big fish with a whale. Dr. Suess retailing at its finest.
Who can argue with Dr. Suess?

[SASKFARMER3]

Is that 800 US dollars or Canadian.
At 800 its 44.3 cents a lb. Take a profit take deliver costs to farm. So they get 15% profit on product and then three cents for costs and delivery.
If my math is right.
Fair price is 54 with exchange. Anything higher is F#$King Robbery!!!!!!!!

[SASKFARMER3]

Best price should be .51.6 delivered.

But if your paying 60 your getting Screwed pass the Vaseline!