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    #16
    Is this deal still going on



    "OTTAWA, Ont.–The Government of Canada will retain ownership of its grain hopper car fleet.

    In November 2005, an agreement-in-principle to lease the grain hopper car fleet to the Farmer Rail Car Coalition (FRCC) for five years was announced. The agreement would have led to a permanent transfer at the end of that period. However, a final agreement had not been concluded. The Government of Canada has now decided, after due consideration, not to proceed with the transfer of the cars to the FRCC but instead retain ownership of the fleet in order to maximize benefits for farmers and taxpayers.

    “By retaining the hopper cars, the Government of Canada will ensure clear accountability and transparency for an efficient and effective grain handling transportation system,” Lawrence Cannon, Minister of Transport, Infrastructure and Communities, said in a release. “This new deal is a better deal on all fronts.”

    Amendments to the Canada Transportation Act (CTA) were also introduced in the House of Commons to permit the Canadian Transportation Agency to adjust the maintenance costs in the maximum revenues the railways can earn from eligible grain shipments (revenue caps). This adjustment will apply to all hopper cars used in regulated grain service and will more closely align the costs in the revenue caps with the actual costs of maintaining the hopper cars in revenue cap service. Estimates show potential savings for farmers of approximately $2.00 per tonne.

    “Farmers will benefit greatly from the government’s decision to keep the cars,” added Minister Cannon. “The amendments to the CTA will allow an adjustment to maintenance costs in the railways’ revenue caps for all hopper cars used in regulated grain service. The savings will allow farmers to see more profits in their business.”

    Taxpayers will also benefit from this decision, Cannon said. Each year, the government collects between $10 and $15 million from the railways for their use of the hopper cars in non-regulated shipments of grain and other products. By keeping the cars, the government will continue to collect that revenue, which will be equal to, or could exceed, the proceeds from the proposed transfer of the hopper cars to the FRCC.

    There are approximately 12,100 railway hopper cars in the Government of Canada fleet, which form the core of rolling stock used by Canadian National Railway and Canadian Pacific Railway to move western grain. These cars are provided at no cost to the railways for the transportation of grain from the Prairies to the ports of Vancouver and Prince Rupert, B.C., and Churchill, Man., for export, or to Thunder Bay and Armstrong, Ontario, for domestic or export purposes. The railways have day-to-day control of the cars and allocate them to grain shippers on a commercial basis. The Government of Canada receives annual alternate-use revenues from the railways when the cars are not used in regulated grain service, and for fees charged when shippers do not load or unload the cars promptly (demurrage).

    With the decision to retain ownership of the fleet, the Government of Canada will also negotiate a new operating agreement and rail car refurbishment program with Canadian National Railway and Canadian Pacific Railway to ensure the rail cars remain in good and safe operating condition."

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      #17
      We are ****ed with Tom whispering in gerry's ear all the time.

      Meanwhile short lines are waiting for cars.

      Cheers and god bless blah blah blah. What a lark.

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        #18
        I am loading cars on our shortline.

        While not perfect, we are moving grain to meet sales.

        Did you go off your meds Bucket?

        In our area where oil moves it looks like grain car service is also better served.
        Cheers!
        Enjoy life... You don't have to prove that you are the grinch, do you?
        All the best in 2015!

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          #19
          As with any equipment we need for the production or movement of our crops, we don't need to own the equipment as long we have access to the equipment when we need it.

          In fact, with the liability associated with accidents, derailments, etc., who wants the hassle?

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            #20
            I have the same experience as Tom. Just loaded 2 producer cars on a short line and they were on time.

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              #21
              Was there any liability for the barbecue in Quebec?

              And Tom good for you that you are getting cars. Maybe you didn't read the press release where the railways called car orders "phantom". You are also 400 miles closer to port so the railways can meet their obligations.

              Nice winter so far but lower targets were set by the railways partner - the federal government.


              BTW my local hasn't loaded a train for over a month. There is no sense signing a contract for delivery there because they can't have any certainty about movement.

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                #22
                Big advantage this year is the booking of deliveries over time, not the entire crop in two weeks like last year.

                Its working much better this year then last.

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                  #23
                  Bucket, don't the graincos decide where the cars are spotted? Seems the graincos are intentionally backing up grain in parts of SK to drive basis down, force farmers to forward sell at lower prices in fear the grain wont move for several months? Doesn't seem like there is an overall shortage of cars this year, nothing like last year.

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